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by fishfree
Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:43 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Sometimes it's best to stay uninvolved
Replies: 43
Views: 7109

Re: Sometimes it's best to stay uninvolved

03Lightningrocks wrote:I think most of us here would intervene if we saw a person being physically attacked. I know I would in some situations and not other situations. ...
Precisely. The original post made a broad sweeping blanket statement that we should not get involved. I pointed out an instance where that would, and I think should, be difficult (to not come to the aid of a child being murdered). I was raised that we have responsibilities beyond looking out for number 1.

Wildbill rebutted my post with his argument that his responsibility was only to himself if doing otherwise put him in danger.

I believe there is a logical argument to be made for looking out for one another and I am not advocating playing policeman or intervening for the sake of intervening. The example I gave was very specific. Beyond logic, stepping in at our own peril, financial or physical, is an intrinsic part of our humanity, or certainly should be.

An honest debate however ends with disrespect and name calling. I am no-ones 'Sonny', I have been in harms way before, although not in the way that Mr. Clayton was. And if I am on a high horse I invite others to join me. The air is better up here than in the mire of 'every man (and child) for himself' with only jungle law.
by fishfree
Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:46 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Sometimes it's best to stay uninvolved
Replies: 43
Views: 7109

Re: Sometimes it's best to stay uninvolved

WildBill wrote:
fishfree wrote:
WildBill wrote:
fishfree wrote:Do not rights also carry responsibilities?
Your responsibilities end when you put yourself in danger for a stranger.
No. They do not. You may choose otherwise.
I have no duty or obligation to put my life in danger for a third party. I may choose to do so, but it is not a responsibility to do so.
"a third party"... no, a person.

It sounds as if responsibility does not exist beyond your smallest circle of interest; yourself. Every man for himself? Even if the 'man' is an infant
Image Yet I can not help but think that most who espouse such a philosophy, if on their backs and at the mercy of a crazed killer, would hope that someone like Mr. Clanton were at hand rather than someone who shared your philosophy.
by fishfree
Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:14 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Sometimes it's best to stay uninvolved
Replies: 43
Views: 7109

Re: Sometimes it's best to stay uninvolved

WildBill wrote:
fishfree wrote:Do not rights also carry responsibilities?
Your responsibilities end when you put yourself in danger for a stranger.
No. They do not. You may choose otherwise.
by fishfree
Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:22 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Sometimes it's best to stay uninvolved
Replies: 43
Views: 7109

Re: Sometimes it's best to stay uninvolved

rp_photo wrote:http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?secti ... id=8553086

We CHL's are taught not to intervene if not in danger ourselves, and this is a great example.

In this case I'm assuming that the victims didn't have weapons, which would make this even more important.

Just be a good witness, as they say.
Easier said then done viewtopic.php?f=108&t=53546. Do not rights also carry responsibilities? Granted hard decisions may be involved and sometimes wrong decisions will be made.

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