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by donkey
Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:53 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: TABC/CHL Service
Replies: 25
Views: 4099

Re: TABC/CHL Service

RHenriksen wrote:
C-dub wrote:
donkey wrote: There is no blue 51% sign.
Do you mean at all or just in the establishment you were in?

If only the 51% and Unlicensed Possession signs are posted I'm having trouble understanding what is incorrect about them both being posted.
The selection of which sign to post is an either/or condition.
Exactly. The liquor license will specify either Sign=Blue or Sign=Red and the establishment is required to post the corresponding sign. They do not get to choose which sign(s) they post.

The location in the first post is a blue sign location. CHL holders are allowed to carry in blue sign locations. By posting the red (51%) signs they create confusion and send the message that concealed carry is not allowed. If they want to prohibit concealed carry they need to post a 30.06 sign.
by donkey
Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:50 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: TABC/CHL Service
Replies: 25
Views: 4099

Re: TABC/CHL Service

C-dub wrote:
donkey wrote:
C-dub wrote:Yeah, I think I'm just confused now. The red 51% sign applies to CHL holders and unlicenced sign applies to everyone else, right? I don't see the problem with having both of these signs posted, but have the feeling I'm going to be really :oops: when someone points it out to me.
The problem is that the law does not prohibit CHL holders from carrying in locations that are required to post the blue sign. This location should only post the blue sign. Businesses do not get to choose which sign(blue/red) they post. The type of liquor license they have determines which sign they are required to display. The location sells alcohol but receives most of its revenue from other products and/or services. It should display only the blue sign and CHL holders are permitted to carry in locations that post blue signs. If the restaurant wants to prohibit CHL holders from carrying, then they need to post a 30.06 sign.
Now I think you are confusing the blue 51% sign up with the blue letter "unlicensed possession" sign as seen in Scott in Houston's picture. However, yes, posting both red and blue 51% signs would be a conflict.
There is no blue 51% sign. There is the blue "unlicensed possession" sign and the red "51%" sign.
by donkey
Mon Oct 22, 2012 7:27 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: TABC/CHL Service
Replies: 25
Views: 4099

Re: TABC/CHL Service

C-dub wrote:Yeah, I think I'm just confused now. The red 51% sign applies to CHL holders and unlicenced sign applies to everyone else, right? I don't see the problem with having both of these signs posted, but have the feeling I'm going to be really :oops: when someone points it out to me.
The problem is that the law does not prohibit CHL holders from carrying in locations that are required to post the blue sign. This location should only post the blue sign. Businesses do not get to choose which sign(blue/red) they post. The type of liquor license they have determines which sign they are required to display. The location sells alcohol but receives most of its revenue from other products and/or services. It should display only the blue sign and CHL holders are permitted to carry in locations that post blue signs. If the restaurant wants to prohibit CHL holders from carrying, then they need to post a 30.06 sign.

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