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by Lucky45
Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:25 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: 5 women slain in store
Replies: 20
Views: 3447

Re: 5 women slain in store

flintknapper wrote:These women were compliant to the point of allowing themselves to be "bound". One was 22 yrs. old, the oldest 42, and the rest in their 30's. I do not know the physical condition of any of the victims, but chances are....some (or all of them) could have fought back or run.

I can only imagine they thought they would not be harmed if they simply did what the BG told them to do. That is probably wise up to a point.

Personally, I will never allow myself to be bound, kneel on the floor facing away, or remain still if any shooting starts.

The key to surviving most attacks is a strong will to fight back, to survive, to use your head. A gun might have been a useful tool in this case, we don't know. But day in and day out, a proper mindset (fight back with whatever you have) will serve you best.

Just my .02
Hey Flint,
I agree with you in principle. My mindset is that as soon as I recognise that there is a robbery where I cannot physically remove myself immediately. I will mostly likely use all means necessary whereby I can achieve that goal of gaining distance. I will never be the one to say that I will wait and see if the BG will leave peacefully. This is because that is wishful thinking because the person came armed and ready to repel any resistance. And since opportunity only knocks once, then I will be taking it whenever it arises. No guessing if they will leave with no problems or if they will leave no witnesses.
by Lucky45
Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:08 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: 5 women slain in store
Replies: 20
Views: 3447

Re: 5 women slain in store

NcongruNt wrote:
Hyunchback wrote: There has been a credible threat of force on behalf of the bad guy or it's not robbery.
Unless it's a bank robbery. It seems that nowadays, all you have to do is walk up and demand money, and it's handed to you straightaway.

Regarding the original topic, I'm very saddened by this event. It is definitely not best to simply comply.
So are you saying that in a bank, that you would stay neutral when they usher everyone to to back or to the vaults????
by Lucky45
Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:07 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: 5 women slain in store
Replies: 20
Views: 3447

Re: 5 women slain in store

How does this incident affect your opinion on using deadly force during a robbery that you are present??? Some people think that you should just keep your head down and let the BG take whatever, and not intervene. In this case, every customer was herded into the back area of the store and executed. Do you think that they had on the their mind that he just wanted them to stay in that area until he made his getaway, like in the Hollywood movies. Obviously, if you had the wait and see mentality, then it would have been too late.
So that is my question, do you wait and see during a robbery ????? .....or .....when possible,do you act swiftly without prejudice???

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