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by jimlongley
Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:23 am
Forum: Other States
Topic: Traveling by air to PA -- via Newark
Replies: 29
Views: 3311

Re: Traveling by air to PA -- via Newark

Jumping Frog wrote:
ralewis wrote:After 6 weeks (well past when I actually traveled) , I did finally receive a response from the NJ Attorney General/NJ State Police saying that it is perfectly legal to fly to Newark and drive thru NJ as long as I was in compliance Federal and NJ firearms laws governing transportation of a firearm.
Traveling from Texas to Newark to PA, where I simply picked up my locked luggage at Newark airport, would not worry me.

However, the return trip where I arrive at Newark airport trying to check my firearm through to Texas? That would worry me. I notice he did not answer that question.
That too.
by jimlongley
Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:48 pm
Forum: Other States
Topic: Traveling by air to PA -- via Newark
Replies: 29
Views: 3311

Re: Traveling by air to PA -- via Newark

ralewis wrote:After 6 weeks (well past when I actually traveled) , I did finally receive a response from the NJ Attorney General/NJ State Police saying that it is perfectly legal to fly to Newark and drive thru NJ as long as I was in compliance Federal and NJ firearms laws governing transportation of a firearm.

Trip was in early February, and did not bring a firearm with me…

Response posted below:

Subject: NJ Firearm Inquiry

AG14-035

March 27, 2014



Your inquiry to the Office of the Attorney General, Citizen Services, regarding the transportation of your firearm from Newark Airport to Pennsylvania has been forwarded to the New Jersey State Police, Firearms Investigation Unit for a response.

You indicated in your correspondence you are traveling with a firearm from Texas to Newark Airport then continuing your travels to Pennsylvania. As long as you follow the appropriate procedures as per the airline you are utilizing, you may obtain your firearm at Newark Airport and travel through New Jersey with a legally owned firearm. Your travels through New Jersey must be in accordance with Federal and New Jersey State laws (See N.J.S. 2C:39-6.g. - transportation of firearms - listed below). For further guidance, you may wish to contact the NY/NJ Port Authority at: 800.828.7273.

N.J.S. 2C:39-6.g. Exemptions (Transportation):
g. All weapons being transported under paragraph (2) of subsection b., subsection e., or paragraph (1) or (3) of subsection f. of this section shall be carried unloaded and contained in a closed and fastened case, gunbox, securely tied package, or locked in the trunk of the automobile in which it is being transported, and in the course of travel shall include only such deviations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances.

If you have any further concerns or questions, please call me directly at 609-882-2000, extension 2555.
Sincerely,

DSFC Glenn Ross #5092
Assistant Unit Head
Firearms Investigation Unit

FOR COLONEL JOSEPH R. FUENTES
SUPERINTENDENT
It figures that they would send it this late, saying this.
by jimlongley
Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:31 pm
Forum: Other States
Topic: Traveling by air to PA -- via Newark
Replies: 29
Views: 3311

Re: Traveling by air to PA -- via Newark

ralewis wrote:The only question I have at this point is when I get my bag from baggage claim in Newark (with my gun in the locked/hardside container) and walk to the rental car, am I still traveling per the USC18 with my journey ending in PA. If I bring a firearm, I'll leave it with my dad in PA vs dealing with checking it on the return trip.

I'll probably end up just not bringing a firearm. What an absurd situation with NJ/NY gun laws....

And believe me, I looked at options for Philadelphia, Allentown, Harrisburg, and AVP (Avoca - Scranton/WB - which is where my destination is). I despise Newark airport, but the price and schedules worked out favorably for a family of 4 with 2 little kids. Direct flight Austin-Newark leaving at 1030am. :)
Once you get off the plane, per their interpretation, your trip is not uninterrupted, and the gun in the bag becomes accessible as soon as you claim it, therefore, if they find out you have it, you will be arrested.
by jimlongley
Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:54 pm
Forum: Other States
Topic: Traveling by air to PA -- via Newark
Replies: 29
Views: 3311

Re: Traveling by air to PA -- via Newark

Jumping Frog wrote:
ralewis wrote:Oh, that's why I'm asking. One idea I've had it to leave it with my parents vs. checking it on the way back. My dad has a PA CHL, and I'm sure would be happy to have it.

That being said, what I've read so far seems to indicate that if I have it locked and unaccessible while in NJ with the exception of the check in procedure I should be ok. The issue 'seems' to be taking possession of a gun in NJ with out one of their silly gun ownership permits.
New Jersey's interpretation is the gun is accessible to you while you are removing the luggage from the car and bringing it into the airport.
The Port Authority interpretation of U.S. Code › Title 18 › Part I › Chapter 44 › § 926A

18 U.S. Code § 926A - Interstate transportation of firearms

Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.

Is that checking the gun for a flight is not covered.

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