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by jimlongley
Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:24 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Outback Steakhouse following Starbucks
Replies: 47
Views: 8625

Re: Outback Steakhouse following Starbucks

Jaguar wrote:
Right2Carry wrote:
Stripes Dude wrote:These signs are also used by businesses who don't want to put up the 30.06 sign because they don't want to alienate us (the CHL community), but they want the anti crowd who doesn't know the statutes to feel like they are on their side. I've seen this happen when headquarters issues a mandate to put up "no gun" signs, but the local management doesn't want to, so they "tongue in cheek" put up a worthless sign to look like they comply.

If this is the case, I give them credit.
There are no facts to back up this statement. This is just more justification to spend money in an establishment that really doesn't want your gun or your business.
I agree with Right2Carry on principle, but I do know of a business that does exactly that. The small branch of my bank put up a gunbuster sign. Since I knew the manager personally and her firearm views I asked about it. She said, "I'm not going to put up a sign that will keep me from carrying." She has since moved on, but the gunbuster is still there and I still carry right past it.

So, it does happen, but unless someone knows Outback's reason for sure, I will assume they don't want my business.
I have asked many businesses and not one has every told me that they do it just for feel good, they all said they meant it.
by jimlongley
Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:42 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Outback Steakhouse following Starbucks
Replies: 47
Views: 8625

Re: Outback Steakhouse following Starbucks

MoJo wrote:In my book Outback is a third rate eatery. The last time I ate there was my LAST time. The meat was tough, the service poor and prices were high. Golden Corral has better steak.
I can't remember the last time I was in an Outback, but service was poor and the food was worse. Another place where something was served wrong and instead of making new, they just scraped the mess off and reserved the same. I ordered a steak with no extra sauces, and they served it to me smothered in mushrooms, the way my wife ordered and received hers. When I objected they took it back and scraped some of the mushrooms off. We left.
Right2Carry wrote:
mlawler wrote:Sign posted to pacify the sheeple! Of course means absolutely nothing to a CHL holder.
I don't believe it and think the owners are just ignorant of the correct signage. There is not one shred of proof that they are trying to pacify the sheeple, but if it gives you a warm and fuzzy feeling then by all means keep giving them money.
Amen. My first assumption is that they mean it, but either are not smart enough or do not care enough to put up the proper signage, either of which makes them ineligible to receive my money.

The idea that incorrect signage is an effort to pacify sheeple or insurance companies just does not make sense. If insurance companies were going to require no gun policies, wouldn't they specify that any signage had to comply with state and local laws?

And I really doubt that the "sheeple" notice - case in point, our friends like to eat at Rainforest Cafe, and they always enter by the nearest entrance, the one that is posted, and during a conversation about going there to eat, when I said I would not and why, they said that they had never seen the sign.

I have asked companies with signs posted, both valid and invalid, why they post, and not one has ever told me that it was an insurance requirement, although the Kia dealership did tell me that the City of Plano required it, at which point I drove away. I have carded many such establishments, and still have not seen one change their sign to a compliant one, although Bass Pro shops did take down their non-compliant ones in response to my letter, so I will continue to card them and tell them that their signage does not meet requirements. Only after I do that do I consider carrying there, but usually I just avoid doing business with them because they have stated that they do not want my money.

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