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by jimlongley
Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:40 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Slaton police arrest woman after request to see warrant
Replies: 119
Views: 15256

Re: Slaton police arrest woman after request to see warrant

Cedar Park Dad wrote:
RX8er wrote:I want to keep this thread open for the great discussion therefore, please stop calling the mom names.
She is one of those idiots who scream
This wouldn't be tolerated if we were talking about the LEO and I don't want to go down that route. :rules:

Wait to be clear here for my personal edification, if there is an arrest warrant out they don't need to provide such to the custodial parent in attempting to apprehend the minor, and instead just note that there is an arrest out?
Pretty much. Get a scanner and listen to all of the traffic stops that result in an arrest because there is a warrant out for the person stopped, or even the passenger in the vehicle stopped. If they had to wait for some other agency to provide them with a copy of the warrant, then there would be an awful lot of cops just sitting around waiting for warrants to be delivered.

My point is that the cop said there was a warrant when there wasn't, and mom, probably from watching too many cop shows on TV, insisted on seeing it (rules are different for search warrants) and was arrested for something, which I still see as a violation of her rights, and an apology is just not adequate compensation.
by jimlongley
Sun Jun 16, 2013 5:38 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Slaton police arrest woman after request to see warrant
Replies: 119
Views: 15256

Re: Slaton police arrest woman after request to see warrant

paperchunker wrote::deadhorse:
I understand that the officer does not need to show anyone the warrant IF it exists. However, what keeps getting glossed over is the fact that it did not exist at the time of the incident.
:iagree:

Exactly, and saying they had a warrant, or that one existed in any case, was a flat out lie.
by jimlongley
Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:56 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Slaton police arrest woman after request to see warrant
Replies: 119
Views: 15256

Re: Slaton police arrest woman after request to see warrant

"McDonald said the Slaton Police Department will issue an apology as long as the mother agrees not to file a lawsuit. He said unless she is compensated for her expenses and the trauma she's been through, a lawsuit won't be out of the question. "

Contempt of cop arrest followed by a stonewall.

Seems to me the following might apply: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

They couldn't present a warrant because at that time there was none, so they just went ahead and violated her rights, more than once.

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