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Beiruty wrote:

jimlongley wrote:

jocat54 wrote:

texanjoker wrote:It is a tough call, but he is a US citizen. At what point do we say you do or do not receive the Bill of Rights? They made the decision for criminal court so that is out.

Not tough for me....he lost ALL rights when he set that bomb off.

But first, according to our Bill of Rights, we have to prove that he set the bomb off, and then he loses the rights.

Not accurate what joecat wants.

Those convicts serving life sentences in prison for whatever heinous crime they committed are deprived from the physical liberty of their mobility, but never lost their human rights.

Unfortunately that is a recent change in philosophy and it should be changed back. If you are an enemy, foreign or domestic, upon conviction you lose multitudes of rights: Free Speech; Bear Arms; etc; the whole list, back the way it was and should be.

But I stand by my statement. He does not lose ANY rights at the act, only at the conviction for the act.

Purplehood wrote:

jocat54 wrote:

texanjoker wrote:It is a tough call, but he is a US citizen. At what point do we say you do or do not receive the Bill of Rights? They made the decision for criminal court so that is out.

Not tough for me....he lost ALL rights when he set that bomb off.

So how would you handle someone born and raised in the USA?

Just the same way. Timothy McVeigh proved he didn't want to be a citizen, so grant him his wish, after conviction, and Hassan is worse, HE should be declared an enemy combatant, a saboteur, and an enemy agent and stood against a wall and shot, upon conviction.

tallmike wrote:I am amazed at how strongly we all argue for strict adherence to one portion of the constitution but we are willing to ignore it completely for someone we disagree with.

Don't be so quick to throw out the constitution.

Not all, as much as I dislike it, I swore to uphold and defend his right to a fair trail equally with your right to say that (not that it was offensive or wrong) and my right to keep and bear arms.

jocat54 wrote:

texanjoker wrote:It is a tough call, but he is a US citizen. At what point do we say you do or do not receive the Bill of Rights? They made the decision for criminal court so that is out.

Not tough for me....he lost ALL rights when he set that bomb off.

But first, according to our Bill of Rights, we have to prove that he set the bomb off, and then he loses the rights.