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Jim Beaux wrote:What disturbs me is no one speaks of states rights anymore. The average citizen would be shocked to know what freedoms the states once held and are now lost. States rights have been crushed and the debris is all that's left.

A process initiated by "Marse Linkum" and his troops in the 1860s.

gdanaher wrote:Please cite the source of your quote. I am unable to find any reference to what you are describing. It appears that the OSCE is not and has never been part of the UN, but you can think whatever you think to calm your fears.

That was on their own web site: http://www.osce.org/atu/13578" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

You can defend them all you want, but their charter is for EUROPE not the US, and as pointed out in their own PDF they are part of the UN.

Please cite your sources.

Edited to add: Posted simultaneously, but obviously the document stating that they are part of the UN is very easy to find.

JCole wrote:I'm curious to know why this is such a big problem in this particular election. As far as I can tell, George Bush first invited this group in to monitor elections in 2004. I don't really have any strong feelings about this myself, and I can't remember having even heard of this monitoring by the OSCE (it's not the UN) being an issue in the past. I'm not trying to start an argument, just seeking clarification.

They sure appear to be part of the UN:

"The OSCE is a regional arrangement under Chapter VIII of the United Nations Charter and the legal framework for the OSCE's action against terrorism is found in the universal anti-terrorism conventions and protocols as well as the relevant UN Security Council resolutions, in particular UNSCR1373 (2001) - which calls upon all states "to cooperate, particularly through bilateral and multilateral arrangements and agreements, to prevent and suppress terrorist attacks and take action against perpetrators of such acts."

If that's not UN, I don't know what is, and it sure sounds threatening to me. If their charter is anti-terrorism and they are coming soon to a polling place near you in the US, that appears to me to mean that they expect terrorist actions at our polling places. Makes me glad I voted early.

I could not find anything in their self-praise pages indicating that anyone invited them to the US at any time in the past.

Discussing this with other people, the consensus is that, if these invaders of our sovereign nation are able to be identified, they should be singled out and peacefully isolated and protested against - ala Selma sit ins.