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by jimlongley
Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:54 am
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
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Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL

Dadtodabone wrote:
jimlongley wrote:And doesn't all of this racial classification that the press and others are using make obama a "white black"?
Using the press' formula Mr. Obama would be a Black-Caucasian. Paternal racial characteristics first, Mr. Zimmerman's father is white, so we have a White-Hispanic. I've heard that Mr. Zimmerman's maternal grandfather was of Native American and Black ancestry, so we potentially have a,
White-Hispanic-Black-Native American.
I am also of mixed ancestry and could identify as a Pole-Czech-Rus-Slovakian(Slavic white guy). While my children wind up as P-C-R-S-Celt-Schwaben. My first granddaughter is P-C-R-S-C-Sc-Cymric-Dane.
Of course there are controversies in some of this mix. My maternal great-great grandmother was the bride of a member of the Kuban Host, is referred to in family history as the "Beauty of the East" and was probably part of the spoils distributed during the campaigns of Caucasus Line Host against the remnants of Ottoman power around the Black Sea. So there is a pretty good chance that I could add Turkic ancestry.
There is also some name confusion during the "melting pot" of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and later Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth. Polish and Lithuanian scripts were used and some of the hand written records(family bibles and Księgi metrykalne) are muddled or nonexistent. So the possibility of Baltai influence is also present.
See, way too many letters and modifiers, and I have similarly diverse background that begins to read like a strand of DNA when you stretch it out far enough.

And how many generations does one's family have to have been here in order to be considered "native American"?
by jimlongley
Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:48 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Replies: 3383
Views: 405410

Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL

Bullitt wrote:
philip964 wrote:
wow.
As a CHL holder, I'm not so wowed by the video and the announcer falls into the same trap as the other media idiots. "Zimmerman, a white Hispanic." 'Fraid not. Zimmerman has a mother who is just about 100% Amer-Indian Peruvian, and his father is "white." That makes Zimmerman just like most Latinos, a mestizo. Just because the miscegenation is only one generation back, and the last name is German, that doesn't make him white. Why in this case is Zimmerman afforded "white" status? There are other comments in there that could have a truck driven through them.

Again, I agree with the verdict of NOT GUILTY. TM was probably not what we would consider a model character, no doubt. That's not sufficient to justify Zimmerman's actions. However, as far as the incident of the shooting goes, this will be an endless debate. The events for me are triggered when Zimmerman decides to get out of his car to Pursue & Confront, an irresponsible action for a CHL holder IMO. The kill site is not anywhere near a place where Zimmerman would need to be in order to get a street name or an approximate location, and he doesn't have to obey any dispatcher directives either.
And doesn't all of this racial classification that the press and others are using make obama a "white black"?

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