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by jimlongley
Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:44 pm
Forum: Other States
Topic: Trip to Heck ... I mean NJ/NY
Replies: 34
Views: 8542

Re: Trip to Heck ... I mean NJ/NY

hirundo82 wrote:
jimlongley wrote: In the years that I lived in NY and fought the gun laws there, I was never able to find anyone who could define what a "slungshot" is. And a court has held that even though a slingshot does not have a wrist brace, it is still covered.
Slungshot--aka "slingshot" or "monkey fist". Commonly associated with sailors, who were known to use them as weapons. Not what we think of when we hear "slingshot" these days, but there are still laws prohibiting them on the books in a number of states (and not all are anti-self defense states--Florida prohibits the,, for one).
I know that and you know that, but walking the halls of the Capital and Legislative Office Building, you would be hard pressed to find anyone who knew that.
by jimlongley
Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:59 pm
Forum: Other States
Topic: Trip to Heck ... I mean NJ/NY
Replies: 34
Views: 8542

Re: Trip to Heck ... I mean NJ/NY

canvasbck wrote:I'm not trying to be argumentative/hardheaded here, but the NJ state police have this on their website regarding transporting firearms through NJ.
All firearms transported through the State of New Jersey:
The following guidelines are provided in order to assist law enforcement officers in applying New Jersey's firearms laws to persons who are transporting firearms through the State of New Jersey.

I.New Jersey laws governing firearms permits, purchaser identification cards, registration and licenses do not apply to a person who is transporting the firearm through this State if that person is transporting the firearm in a manner permitted by federal law, 18 U.S.C.A. 926A.

II.This federal law permitting interstate transportation of a firearm applies only if all of the following requirements are met:

A.
The person's possession of the firearm was lawful in the state in which the journey began;

B.
The person's possession of the firearm will be lawful in the state in which the journey will end;

C.
The person is transporting the firearm for lawful purpose

D.
The firearm is unloaded

E.
The firearm is not directly accessible from the passenger compartment of the vehicle

F.
The ammunition is not directly accessible from the passenger compartment of the vehicle

G.
If the vehicle does not have a compartment separate from the passenger compartment, the firearm and ammunition must be in a locked container other than the vehicle's glove compartment or console;
Where/how would the arrest take place?
Applies ONLY to transporting through the state in a vehicle, not to checking it at the airport.

Newark airport is part of the The Port Authority of New York & New Jersey, and as such they are policed by a non-New Jersey police department and they follow NY City's laws on possession of firearms.

And of course the airlines are acting as police agents by reporting people attempting to legally check bags containing firearms.
by jimlongley
Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:51 pm
Forum: Other States
Topic: Trip to Heck ... I mean NJ/NY
Replies: 34
Views: 8542

Re: Trip to Heck ... I mean NJ/NY

Middle Age Russ wrote:Kinda makes me wonder if slingshots are regulated there. I bet if the authorities have looked into it, ammo pouches are probably limited to no more than ten projectiles, though.
Yes, they are.

S 265.01 Criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree.
A person is guilty of criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth
degree when:
(1) He or she possesses any firearm, electronic dart gun, electronic
stun gun, gravity knife, switchblade knife, pilum ballistic knife, metal
knuckle knife, cane sword, billy, blackjack, bludgeon, plastic knuckles,
metal knuckles, chuka stick, sand bag, sandclub, wrist-brace type
slingshot or slungshot, shirken or "Kung Fu star"; or

In the years that I lived in NY and fought the gun laws there, I was never able to find anyone who could define what a "slungshot" is. And a court has held that even though a slingshot does not have a wrist brace, it is still covered.

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