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by jimlongley
Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:56 am
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: This week's LEO bloopers (March 14-20, 2010)
Replies: 30
Views: 6491

Re: This week's LEO bloopers (March 14-20, 2010)

seamusTX wrote:I have two questions:
  • How would you compare the current level of journalistic and police integrity to the situation that existed in 1890 to 1930?
  • Do you have any achievable recommendations for improving the current situation?
- Jim
1 - Not very different in journalism, they are self enabled and hide behind constitutional protection even when they are very wrong.
- some different in police, but even today one can come up with examples of a lack of integrity that boggles the mind.

2 - No, but there are people much smarter than me who could contribute.

One of the problems is the "Blue Wall" - cops don't snitch on cops, reporters don't snitch on reporters. Self regulation is problematic, and that is what we trust the media and the police to do. When oversight is implemented, it is viewed as intrusive, spying, amateurs telling professionals what to do, and a variety of other things.

A small but relevant example from personal experience: I was a TSA "Agent" for several years and was there almost from the beginning. The whole thing was put together in a big hurry and organized along somewhat military lines. There was supposed to be an internal organization to investigate and correct abuses within the organization, but reports of superiors violating procedure, harassment, and even possible criminal activity, were often "investigated" by asking the parties involved if they were involved, and sometimes resulted in threats against the persons doing the reporting, whistle blower laws not withstanding.

A supervisor arrived at work late almost daily, and left work early; had a "clique" of buddies who were accorded special privileges, sometimes leaving the site for long lunches which probably involved consumption of alcohol; openly participated in questionable activities that some felt were sexual harassment, and more.

I, personally, objected to a situation and tried to get my direct supervisor to do something about it, but was rebuffed. So I filed a report skipping the chain of command, which was within our published policies.

I was summarily called up in front of a manager several levels above my pay grade, informed that I could be terminated for doing what I had, that he had "personally" investigated my "allegation" and had found it to be "vague" and "insubstantive" and uncorroborated by my listed witnesses. Conversations with some of those people later revealed that each had been told they were being investigated for mutiny and they had better be right or they were facing felony jail time, causing some to recant or at least reduce their part of the complaint.

TSA solved the issue about the supervisor arriving late, taking long lunches, and leaving early while falsifying the sign in log by: separating the supervisory sign in log to somewhere that the rest of us can't see it.

That's just one example, there are others, and there is no reason to think that the media or police fare much better.
by jimlongley
Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:32 pm
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: This week's LEO bloopers (March 14-20, 2010)
Replies: 30
Views: 6491

Re: This week's LEO bloopers (March 14-20, 2010)

seamusTX wrote:Sure, and I'll give you Jason Blair for free and not mention Jeff Gannon (oops, sorry).

There are bad apples in every profession. Most organizations, including the police, find them and get rid of them. The fact that individuals are imperfect doesn't condemn the entire profession.

- Jim
No, but it does show that the possibility exists. All I wanted to do was come up with "something" less than seventy years old, and that was easy.
by jimlongley
Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:23 pm
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: This week's LEO bloopers (March 14-20, 2010)
Replies: 30
Views: 6491

Re: This week's LEO bloopers (March 14-20, 2010)

seamusTX wrote:Can you come up with something that happened less than 70 years ago?

- Jim
Janet Cooke?
by jimlongley
Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:20 am
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: This week's LEO bloopers (March 14-20, 2010)
Replies: 30
Views: 6491

Re: This week's LEO bloopers (March 14-20, 2010)

seamusTX wrote:As examples of what journalists can accomplish, see some of the recent Pulitzer awards:
  • 2008 Walt Bogdanich and Jake Hooker of The New York Times. For their stories on toxic ingredients in medicine and other everyday products imported from China, leading to crackdowns by American and Chinese officials.
  • 2008 Staff of Chicago Tribune. For its exposure of faulty governmental regulation of toys, car seats and cribs, resulting in the extensive recall of hazardous products and congressional action to tighten supervision.
  • 2007 Brett Blackledge of The Birmingham (AL) News. For his exposure of cronyism and corruption in the state's two-year college system, resulting in the dismissal of the chancellor and other corrective action.
  • 2009 [Finalist] Paul Pringle of Los Angeles Times. For his meticulously researched stories that, in the face of threats, exposed financial abuses by the head of California’s largest union, leading to investigations, the leader’s departure from office and repayment of misappropriated funds.
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- Jim
And then, of course, we have Fords blowing up, well documented and meticulously researched.

I think "Quis custodiet custodes?" was meant to be a rhetoical question.

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