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by jimlongley
Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:37 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Open Carry.Org Targets Texas
Replies: 166
Views: 25534

Re: Open Carry.Org Targets Texas

Charles L. Cotton wrote:We get things done by dealing with how things are, not how we wish them to be. Reasonable minds can differ on whether open-carry should be pursued in Texas, and if so, how should it be done (licensed v. unlicensed, etc.) and who should carry the flag. Since valid, rational arguments can be made on both sides of the debate, there is no reason to question the dedication of people who don't share our opinions on this very emotional issue.

Chas.
Exactly my opinion, and I AM on the opposite side from you, Charles. We have to be as crafty as the anti-gun nuts and get our rights back by increments. Just like cooking that frog.
by jimlongley
Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:38 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Open Carry.Org Targets Texas
Replies: 166
Views: 25534

Re: Open Carry.Org Targets Texas

HGWC wrote:When it comes to a fundamental constitutional right, how long does the state have to delay before you will recognize that I'm being denied my rights?
Just for my edification, which right is it that the state is delaying?

Concealed carry licensing is a privilege granted by the state, not a right.

Now if you are contending that the state is denying a fundamental right, or constitutional right, by allowing the carrying of guns, then I would agree with you, but that has nothing to do with any delay in processing CHLs, it has to do with the state co-opting our rights, and that becomes a different fight.

What you need to be pushing for is a change in the law that says that when DPS is unable, for any reason, to process a CHL application within the allotted amount of time, it shall issue a letter explaining this and the letter will be considered a valid CHL until DPS gets around to finishing the process.

And good luck with that.

Of course, to mollify those who would object to such a clause, you could throw in a felony charge of "fraudulent misrepresentation" or some such thing for anyone who fails their background check after the delay.

Something else you need to consider: The poorly crafted bill presented by Open Carry . ORG also does away with our ability to carry in hospitals, amusement parks, and any place else where 30.06 notification is currently required.

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