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by jimlongley
Sun Jan 15, 2006 1:10 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Demistify Penal Code 46.03.a.1 (Schools)
Replies: 27
Views: 7180

Charles L. Cotton wrote:
jimlongley wrote:And if the school district posts the driveways with 30.06 signs? Of course, Plano Independent School Districts signs do not comply with 30.06, but when I called the state to find out who enforces the provision that the signs had to meet the parameters stated in the law, I was told that they considered just the attempt to be a valid posting and did I want to be a test case.
Schools districts are units of local government, so 30.06 signs are ineffective on parking lots.

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I must admit I'm getting quite tired of people who should be role models for law abiding citizens ignoring the clear and unambiguous requirements of the law.

Regards,
Chas.
Which is basically why I was calling them. All I wanted to know was who to call to see to it that the school district came into compliance with the law. ;-)

BTW, Plano feels that the "Independent" in their title means they are not a unuit of local government.
by jimlongley
Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:30 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Demistify Penal Code 46.03.a.1 (Schools)
Replies: 27
Views: 7180

Charles L. Cotton wrote:
the real deal wrote:Thanks Chas. This was why I posted it, it is very convoluted.

However, if I read correctly, are you stating that these only apply to UCW? I read it as stating a CHL holder can not carry on the premise of a school, which drags them into this convoluted mix of references to premise.

Reason why I say this is TPC 46.03.f:
(f) It is not a defense to prosecution under this section
that the actor possessed a handgun and was licensed to carry a
concealed handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code.
Correct, a CHL cannot carry on the premises of a school, but "premises" is defined to apply only to a building or portion of a building. TPC §46.03(c)(1) adopting TPC §46.035(f)(3). Thus, you can carry on school grounds, parking lots, garages, etc., just not in the buildings. (Not on grounds either, if school activities are on going.)

Regards,
Chas.
And if the school district posts the driveways with 30.06 signs? Of course, Plano Independent School Districts signs do not comply with 30.06, but when I called the state to find out who enforces the provision that the signs had to meet the parameters stated in the law, I was told that they considered just the attempt to be a valid posting and did I want to be a test case.

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