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anygunanywhere wrote:

cb1000rider wrote:Bones,
How do you get into this system? Is it by association / observation? Or is it by actual judicial conviction? Is the data purged after 5-years of being clean - meaning erased?

No one here wants active violent criminals to be licensed to carry firearms. But clearly there are many of us who don't want to put our gun rights in the hands of anyone working for the government without some level of judicial oversight.

If you haven't done anything wrong why are you worried?

talltex wrote:

nightmare69 wrote:

cb1000rider wrote:

Abraham wrote:nightmare69 ,
Some of us (for instance, you...) can identify a dirtbag when you see a dirtbag.

I'll admit that I can't. Some of the biggest dirtbags on the planet tend to wear suits and ties and are much more dangerous to our wallets than a someone who wears less acceptable forms of clothing.

I'm fine with LTC getting taken away if gang membership is proven through a judicial process. I just don't want to shift the burden of proof the other way by abusing the legal process.

What do you do with "gang members" who turn their lives around and have no criminal record? Are they banned for life?

I believe after 5yrs of a clean record they are taken off the gang information system in Texas. I've applied for access to this great system.

to address each of the highlighted statements:
1. Just being a "dirtbag" isn't an illegal act. Until they've committed a criminal offense they are just a law abiding "dirtbag" with the same rights as anyone else.
2. I can't even agree with revoking a license just because they are proven to be a member of a particular group if they've never been arrested and convicted of anything. I personally can't stand rap music, sagging pants, sideways caps, or tattoos...but I don't have the right to tell others what they can listen to or wear or do to their own bodies as long as they are not committing illegal acts.
3. This whole discussion was about people that ALREADY have a CLEAN record...which was frustrating your desire to revoke their LTC.