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thenick_ttu wrote:

Crossfire wrote:Sorry, kid.

There it is!!

It's the disconnect between old farts and young pups. Most young people today don't see tats as anything more than body art or a way to express themself. Old people see tats as something that an upstanding member of society would never do, which is completely ridiculous in today's society.

And just to answer any speculations... no, I don't have neck tats or sleeves. I don't have any visible tats. I just don't automatically think someone is a criminal or thug just because they have tats all over their body.

If he was so proud of them, why was he trying to cover them up? I'm just guessing that it didn't say "Jesus Saves".

I called the cops because at the very minimum, they needed to be field interviewed. When houses start getting broken into, the detectives need a starting point. People who look like thugs typically are thugs. I'm sure that there are all sorts of pastors, engineers, cpa's, attorneys, and teachers with neck tats...I just haven't met them yet. They probably all have just a little bit of pot on them too...for medicinal purposes no doubt! I made a judgment based on looks, dress, their story, and their first question (what I do for a living). I don't care one bit whether or not they were cited for not having a permit, but I do care that the cops made contact with them and sent them packing.

Do you not think that people out knocking on doors should be submitted to some form of a local background check?

I believe the world has changed. The number of legitimate companies doing door-to-door sales can probably be counted on one hand. These communities are putting in the solicitation ordinances to protect citizens. An officer told me yesterday that the ratio of scammers to legit salesmen was 10:1.

You dang right I called the cops...and I will continue to do it. Did you read that one of the guys had pot in his pocket? Legit people don't go door to door with baggy pants, neck tattoos and sleeves. Call me judgmental if you wish, but the whole "looks, walks, and quacks like a duck" theory fits here.

McDonalds and Burger King both have Help Wanted signs in the window.

DocV wrote:While you are at it get 45 ACP - although Lowes doesn't stock 'em.

I have two 9mm, but didn't have them on body while sitting around the house. I think I'm going to get a 12 guage for the front door.

My doorbell rings about noon today...two twenty-something white males standing at the door. I put my .25 auto in my pocket and opened the door to see one guy with jeans and a golf shirt and a t-shirt on his shoulder that was up covering his neck tattoo. Both arms had sleeve tats. The second guy was in a black t-shirt and jean shorts holding a root beer can. Not professional or impressive at all and my internal alarm was going off immediately.
White shirt guy starts talking...stating that they are working on some sort of post-high school public speaking training course and they are out embarassing themselves today trying to win a contest for a trip to Barcelona Spain. He said they were doing some research on positive careers and then asked me what positive career I was in? When I replied that my career was none of his business, he was somewhat stunned, but before he could protest, I told them to buzz off because I wasn't interested in anything they had to offer...and I closed the door.

Our community has a solicitation permit requirement and all adult door-to-door presenters must possess it. I called the PD immediately and within 5 minutes, two crusiers were 3 doors down from my house with both suspects being interviewed. They cuffed the kid holding the soda can...posession of marijuana. They took the other guy to the station, but released him after issuing him a citation for soliciting without a permit.

I'm completely convinced that these guys were casing out future robberies...if they know what you do, they can assess when you are home and figure the best time to hit the house. Being that one had drugs on him, there is an even better chance that they were up to no good. I was probably stupid for opening the door to two strange males who could potentially overpower me. My 7 shot .25 was inadequate should the situation get ugly.

I think I'm going to go to Lowes and get a NO SOLICITING sticker for my door. They are ugly, but I'm sick of strangers ringing my doorbell without an appointment! Am I becoming "that guy" that is paranoid and anti-social...or is the world just getting that crazy and I'm right to not subject my family to unwanted criminal action???