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bblhd672 wrote:I just keep wondering why in these 50 United States there isn't one single "unreasonable" Federal Prosecutor who will stand up and say "I'll prosecute that case!"

JALLEN wrote:

Abraham wrote:What happened to: Ignorance of the law is no excuse?

Can you imagine any average person offering up a defense of: Yes, I broke the law, but I didn't mean to?

I don't think that is what it depends on.

What Comey seemed to have turned on is that the statute criminalizing gross negligence has never been used in the absence of one of the several circumstances he listed, and it has long been doubted whether the statute is even Constitutional. This may not have been the decision you or I expected, as few of us would have opportunity to be aware of those factors.

What if Comey was sincere, objective, his integrity unsullied by any of the wild accusations leveled at him this week?

Had indictments been recommended, a grand jury would have been impanelled to issue those indictments if it chose to do so. If you think the OJ Simpson case was something, the trial of this case would be an even more enormous spectacle. Imagine the "Dream Team" that would have been assembled! Every word, every e-mail, every computer file and byte would be gone over with the finest tooth comb imaginable.

I cannot imagine how or when, or where it would be possible to select a trial jury which would hear the case with the requisite level of due process to which we are all entitled. She might still beat the rap(s) even so.

When Richard Nixon resigned, some people were after his scalp, not, it developed, without considerable justification. When his successor, Gerald Ford, pardoned him, many were horrified.

From Wikipedia:

"After Ford left the White House in 1977, he privately justified his pardon of Nixon by carrying in his wallet a portion of the text of Burdick v. United States, a 1915 U.S. Supreme Court decision which stated that a pardon indicated a presumption of guilt, and that acceptance of a pardon was tantamount to a confession of that guilt.[8] In 2001, the John F. Kennedy Library Foundation awarded the John F. Kennedy Profile in Courage Award to Ford for his pardon of Nixon.[9] In presenting the award to Ford, Senator Ted Kennedy said that he had initially been opposed to the pardon of Nixon, but later stated that history had proved Ford to have made the correct decision.[10]"

It may be that the jury box is not the best way to handle these acts and omissions. The ballot box may be.

ScottDLS wrote:

mojo84 wrote:This ruling supports the contention I've had all along.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... -huge-way/

The D.C. Circuit held in its decision that work email stored privately is still subject to Freedom of Information Act requests. The whole point of FOIA, the court said, is to provide transparency on public officials' behavior while in office. Circumventing that by hosting government documents on non-governmental servers defeats that purpose, Judge David Sentelle said.

Too bad her lawyers wiped all the servers (with a cloth...), before the FOIA information got produced.

The D.C. Circuit held in its decision that work email stored privately is still subject to Freedom of Information Act requests. The whole point of FOIA, the court said, is to provide transparency on public officials' behavior while in office. Circumventing that by hosting government documents on non-governmental servers defeats that purpose, Judge David Sentelle said.

dale blanker wrote:

mojo84 wrote:I listened to all but about 10% of the hearing today and Comey convinced me. He convinced me 100% Hillary should be prosecuted.

To me, it appears he is has been given marching order and is having to toe the administration line. In other words, it appears an otherwise decent and respected man has caved to the pressure.

There was no caving by him in his testimony...

Representative John Mica, Republican of Florida, told Mr. Comey that it looked as if the end of the investigation into Mrs. Clinton was choreographed, beginning with Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch’s chance meeting last week with Mr. Clinton, and continuing with the F.B.I.’s interview with Mrs. Clinton on Saturday, Mr. Comey’s announcement on Tuesday, and Mrs. Clinton’s campaign appearance with President Obama hours later. Mr. Mica said he did not know what to tell constituents talking about the case in Florida cafes.

Mr. Comey grew red in the face, raising his voice as he answered the congressman. “I hope what you’ll tell the folks in the cafe is: Look me in the eye and listen to what I’m about to say. I did not coordinate that with anyone,” Mr. Comey said. “The White House, the Department of Justice, nobody outside the F.B.I. family had any idea what I was about to say. I say that under oath, I stand by that. There was no coordination.”

Clinton's actions and statements are reprehensible but I think FBI Director Comey, also Deputy Attorney General under Bush, is forthright and has little or no incentive to cave in under pressure from the Administration.

Skiprr wrote:

JALLEN wrote:

Skiprr wrote:

B23Msports wrote:In return for his help in this, does Barrack Obama become a Supreme Court judge appointed by Hillary?

Be afraid. Be very afraid...

This is ridiculous.

Hillary isn't appointing Obama to the Supreme Court.

Even if she wanted to, the Senate would never confirm him, barring a major shake up in the composition of the Senate.

Even if it were to do so, there is no reason to think Obama might be willing to spend the rest of his productive life in the relatively cloistered role of a Supreme Court justice making a few hundred thou per year when he could be out running around fleecing donors for millions, working or not as he saw fit.

C'mon, men!

Oh, I definitely agree about BHO as a SCOTUS justice. I think B23Msports's post was tongue-in-cheek, and my reply certainly was...but with a wink and a nudge toward the cautionary tale many have been repeating: one of the greatest fears we should have about four more years of an Obama/Clinton-style "progressive" administration is the composition of the Supreme Court.

Obama would never seek or accept an appointment as a Supreme Court justice. He'd never be willing to step out of the limelight. I look for him to morph his experience as a Community Activist in Chicago (Crime City, USA) and POTUS into his future role of "National Activist": if Hillary wins, we as a nation will continue to have to deal with Obama as a never-fading media presence. Have teleprompter will travel.

But we have no guarantees that the current Senate will not eventually accept a "compromise" and confirm a Hillaryophilic candidate, and if there is a redistribution in the Senate during the administration, well...

As the vote on Obama's immigration action showed, we're on a taut, thin tightrope already. A swing in the ideological composition and personal values at 1 First Street, NE, would have ramifications for not just a Clinton administration, but for a generation...or more. If elected, Hillary can foul up a whole lot of stuff very quickly. But with Justice Scalia's swing vote absent and pending appointment, and with three other of the remaining eight justices over 75 years old--including the "moderate" Kennedy who turns 80 in less than three weeks--it's almost certain the next administration will be nominating (and lobbying for the appointment of) at least two SCOTUS positions, possibly three.

So, yep. I'm afraid. I'm very afraid.

Abraham wrote:mojo84,

Just my weak attempt at injecting a little humor into this very dark day.

John Roberts failed us with Obamacare and now Comey.

I expect our politicians to get away with high level crime, but I just wish it could be done with a bit more finesse.

Being slapped in the face with statements like Comey made is not only disheartening it's maddening.

Abraham wrote:What?

Some here are surprised by the FBI wimping out?

I fully expect her to get away with whatever crime see's guilty of and so does she.

She's has now proven beyond a reasonable doubt she's omnipotent.

Hail to your overlord, ah, ms. overlord.

Skiprr wrote:

B23Msports wrote:In return for his help in this, does Barrack Obama become a Supreme Court judge appointed by Hillary?

Be afraid. Be very afraid...