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ScottDLS wrote:

E.Marquez wrote:

ScottDLS wrote:This all begs the question....why isn't it illegal to BE a member of a "Criminal Street Gang"?

In some cases it is.. mere association with a group tagged in a RICO case, makes you chargeable and case history shows, convicted at times.

But I think I know you meant that in a broader term..... and you're right,,, that would not stand.. The next "Powers to be" could then write a law saying membership in a group that rides Motorcycles is illegal. Or Owns guns, or

Much more than "mere association" is required for a conviction, otherwise feds could have "RICOed" every patched member and ended all the gangs. You have to be proven to have been involved in directing the "organization". RICO is generally used against the leaders, not the members.

If a MC member doesn't engage in any illegal activity, nor direct such activity, I'm hard pressed to see how denying him a right is constitutional.

MONGOOSE wrote:So where was the law broken other than your speculation?

MONGOOSE wrote:I had a new to me truck in 1990. The gas gauge did not work. I was told by the seller that I had a 35 gallon tank. Nope 24. I ran out of fuel between Midland and Odessa. I put a pistol In my pants Mexican carry and I leashed my dog and off I went. Oil field was making shift change and not one good ole white boy pulled over to ask if I needed help, A cholo with his wife and son pulled over and asked me if I needed help. He drove me to a filling station to get a can and fuel. He then took me to my truck. He was covered in tats, wore a hair net and dressed like a gang banger. He refused to take any money and even offered me food if I needed it. Here he was driving a 50's something Ford PU, rattle can painted and he was offering me help.

I have since employed numerous "cholo" looking guys. Two have been my best workers. My worst have been white boys. One ex Army. two college students. I never judge a book by it's cover.

MONGOOSE wrote:When has it been established that he belongs to an OMC? And who says your pic is a group engaging in criminal activity?

mojo84 wrote:

MONGOOSE wrote:Laws the law. For all of us. Your just being hypocitical

The law says they can't have a CHL or carry a gun. That's the law.

Why treat a OMC member different than the guys pictures? Who's being hypocritical?

MONGOOSE wrote:Laws the law. For all of us. Your just being hypocitical

MONGOOSE wrote:You guys like to pick and choose the rights given to us all. Just who "you" think deserves them. Change the constitution then

Abraham wrote:People who like to appear dangerous are typically dangerous. Of course, not always, but usually.

Stereotypes exist for a reason...

VoiceofReason wrote:

Abraham wrote:Stew,

If you want to be believed and accepted here, you'll have to work a bit harder at convincing the members you're being mistreated by LE by being more forthcoming.

If not interested in being accepted here, O.K., but the perception at this point is you are quite possibly a member of an outlaw biker gang and as such few here will provide you much sympathy or support.

If you're not part of an outlaw MC, why not provide enough information to exonerate yourself in the eyes of the members here?

So, what you are saying is that if someone is a member of an outlaw biker gang with no record, It is OK for the police to arrest them for no turn signal, search their bike, take their legal firearm, refuse to return it and have their CHL revoked?

Just asking.

Stew wrote:

mojo84 wrote:This comment implies you are in a MC that is made up of current and former law enforcement officers. Is that the case? I think some of us are curious to know if you are actually a victim of unscrupulous cops or are just playing one. Some of the things you've said tend to lead me to the latter.

My patch is a 3 piece patch along with every other law enforcement motorcycle club who wears a 3 piece parch but are not profiled as such

Read the post in detail again,

Definitely not in a LE club the gentleman made reference to a 3 piece patch and it's meaning I my clubs patch is a 3 piece like LE clubs so to wear a 3 piece patch but they are not classified or profiled as law breaking individuals.

My patch is a 3 piece patch along with every other law enforcement motorcycle club who wears a 3 piece parch but are not profiled as such

Glockster wrote:

ron_houston wrote:About 10 years ago I was stopped on Telephone Road next to Hobby Airport on my Harley. As the officer walked up I kept my hands on the grips and said "officer, I have a Texas CHL and I am armed" he stepped back (and in an obvious show of superiority) un-snapped his holster. He asked where by weapon was and I told him in a shoulder holster under my left arm. I was wearing a leather vest and all he said was "do not unbutton your vest". He proceeded to give me a warning ticket for my tail-light not being "bright enough". My Harley was less than a month old 2005 Super Glide. I went to the nearest dealer and handed the service manager the warning. He laughed and said that he got about one a week from that same officer. It seems the officer's wife left him for a biker.
You just never can tell.

So did you pay the ticket?