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Lildave, it really isn't a matter of a business needing to take down a nonenforceable sign. The deal is, if a business really wants to prohibit concealed or, in the future opan carry, they need to comply with the law and notify people in the proper way. If it isn't a big enough issue to them to post the proper sign, then it isn't incumbent upon us, morally, legally or ethically to question their choice of sign to make sure the sign satisfies their intentions and desires.

The trouble comes when someone forces the sign issue and the business owner has an ah moment and decides to post the correct signage that law abiding carriers will have to obey. The fallacy is, the criminals will not obey any sign while the good guys, us, will obey legal signs.

There is a difference in signage laws between privately owned property and those owned/leased by a state or local government.

Two things come to mind.

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No one in this thread or the other one is disputing a property owner's right to post as sign to keep guns out. Why do you not see that?

We've had 80 views of this poll and topic with only 22 votes. Please consider voting as I think it will be good to see what the forum in general thinks on this.

Also, in case you are concerned, the votes are private. I and the other members cannot see them unless I just don't know where to look. I assume the mods and Charles are the only ones that can see how anyone voted.

Taypo,
I see what you are saying. However, I don't think this poll will give them much more ammunition than what they already have. It just indicates our opinion about whether or not we have an obligation to verify a business owner's intent. If a business owner has special rules, they should use the properly legal means to notify their customers of their intent. The law spells out those means of notification.

Just as we are expected to follow the law, business owners, which I am one, should also.

Do you believe one should bring unenforceable non-compliant signs to the attention of the private business owner to clarify their actual intent for having a non-compliant sign posted? Please share why or why not in the thread.

Hopefully, we can keep from arguing in this one since there is already multiple threads arguing over what is right and wrong. Please just state your reasoning for your position.