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One thing that stood out to me was the demeanor of the cool after shooting the guy. He remains relatively calm and cool. Many other cops that have shot someone were very excited and it was obvious it was a big adrenalin rush, sometimes even sorrowful/compassionate even though it was a justified shoot. This guy seemed pretty matter of fact about it without much emotion. Not that this means anything necessarily. Just an observation.

cb1000rider wrote:Yikes. He certainly moved quickly when asked for an ID.. Obviously that caused an already concerned (gun drawn) officer to make a judgement call that was incorrect. The bad judgement doesn't stop there, you probably shouldn't shoot suspects that have their hands up.

If that's a good officer, I feel bad that he made such a mistake.

Law enforcement scares me to death these days. Literally shaking. That will make zero sense to those who think that only criminals have to be afraid of the police. The nervousness causes suspicion, which doesn't help.

My solution to this situation is simple. If I'm asked for my DL, I say "my DL is in my back pocket, may I reach for it?"
For every command, I speak it back and indicate how I'm going to do it and do it slowly.
50/50 on LEOs appreciating this and LEOs demanding to search by car due to the "probable cause" provided by my acting nervous.
I do much better if I know there is a camera recording.. I relax quite a bit.

Have you had a lot of experience with cop contacts?

When a cop gives a command, he needs to expect the person to respond and follow that command. Shooting someone that is complying, whether he realizes it or not, is a problem. If a cop doesn't want someone to move or do something, telling them to get their ID is not the right command.

You can see it on the show cops at times. The cop will yell STOP, put you hands up, turn around, get on the ground and put your hands behind your head all within a few seconds without giving the suspect time to respond to the first command much less the conflicting commands.

I bet he was moving to get the back of the truck between him and the guy he was shooting. Moving to cover while shooting. I also suspect he was trying to get a less dangerous backstop than what he had when the door and windows of the store were in line behind his target.

Lot's of things going on real quick and it's hard to make 100% correct decisions but this deal is just bad. I think bad cops and cops that make bad decisions like this should be punished both criminally and through their agency of employment. Sounds like this case is being handled properly.

I also understand their may be more to the story. My opinions are based on what I saw in the video and read in limited articles I've read.

It appears the guy was on private property when the officer saw him and decided to turn around and contact him. Is it illegal to be in a private parking lot without your seatbelt on? The cop was definitely too quick to go to the gun and start shooting.

I bet the driver will move a little slower in the future if he is contacted by a cop and given commands. Show deliberate movements where the cop can see your hands at all times is advisable.