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myntalfloss wrote:

mojo84 wrote: Just common sense and taking the man for his word until I have evidence or valid reason to believe otherwise. I don't think he would just come up with something like that out of the wild blue.

I noticed your opinion follows closely to those promoted by Slate, Huffington Post, The Daily Beast and other similar progressive propaganda pushers.

You noticed that did you? Was it just me, or do you notice that of anyone whose opinion differs from yours?

As to your "follows closely" and "promoted by" perjoratives, I expressed MY opinion and stated the reasons why. Whether or not someone else agrees (or disagrees) with it matters not and changes nothing, it's still MY opinion. As Warren Buffet (my capitalist hero) says, "Being agreed with doesn't make you right or wrong." That said, it's not carved in stone, I just haven't seen anything that has convinced me otherwise. It's still possible that it happened, I just don't think it's likely.

And, common sense is taking a politician at his word? Especially about a self-agrandizing statement? Well of course, politicians never lie and they certainly wouldn't lie to make themselves look better.

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myntalfloss wrote:

mojo84 wrote:

myntalfloss wrote:

mojo84 wrote:

myntalfloss wrote:Ok, all this coyote talk begs the question.... How many think that Perry actually shot a coyote with a .380 LCP?

Do you have reason to believe he didn't?

Well, as it is, we simply have Perry's word that this happened. We really have no proof for or against. But as it's said, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. And that which is asserted w/o evidence may be similarly dismissed." Given Perry's penchant for self-promotion, I think had this really happened, he'd have had pictures out the wazoo of him posing with the carcass and his defensless dog and would have probably had the pelt made into a coonskin-style hat to wear at rallys.

That said, here's the troubling parts to me.

It was a single, well-placed round from a LCP. (That in itself is almost an oxymoron.)
There were no witnesses. (Wouldn't his bodyguards have come forward, praising Dead-eye Rick for his skill?)
There was no coyote carcass brought forward.
He's a politician.
It's a self-serving statement.
He was in the midst of a gubernatorial race with Mark White, and this story plays into the rugged, macho Texas image that he likes to cultivate.
He parsed the story by saying that the 'coyote dropped' and 'it felt no pain', which leaves room for plausible deniability.
And, for the last 40 years, I've ascribed to the theory that you can tell when a politician is lying because his lips are moving. I haven't been disappointed yet.
As easy as this would have been to put to bed, the fact that it wasn't speaks volumes.

But, it could have happened. For some folks, that he said he did is proof enough.

In other words, you have no reason or evidence other than you don't like or trust Perry.

For you, apparently not.

I don't like Obama either but, I'm pretty sure OBL is dead. (This would be a textbook example of extraordinary evidence, videos, pictures, witnesses, carcass, all the things the Perry story lacks.) My disdain for politicians has nothing to do with facts. Come to think about it, politicians have nothing to do with facts.

BTW, did you mention the reasons that you believe it happened? Other than you like and trust Perry.

myntalfloss wrote:

mojo84 wrote:

myntalfloss wrote:Ok, all this coyote talk begs the question.... How many think that Perry actually shot a coyote with a .380 LCP?

Do you have reason to believe he didn't?

Well, as it is, we simply have Perry's word that this happened. We really have no proof for or against. But as it's said, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. And that which is asserted w/o evidence may be similarly dismissed." Given Perry's penchant for self-promotion, I think had this really happened, he'd have had pictures out the wazoo of him posing with the carcass and his defensless dog and would have probably had the pelt made into a coonskin-style hat to wear at rallys.

That said, here's the troubling parts to me.

It was a single, well-placed round from a LCP. (That in itself is almost an oxymoron.)
There were no witnesses. (Wouldn't his bodyguards have come forward, praising Dead-eye Rick for his skill?)
There was no coyote carcass brought forward.
He's a politician.
It's a self-serving statement.
He was in the midst of a gubernatorial race with Mark White, and this story plays into the rugged, macho Texas image that he likes to cultivate.
He parsed the story by saying that the 'coyote dropped' and 'it felt no pain', which leaves room for plausible deniability.
And, for the last 40 years, I've ascribed to the theory that you can tell when a politician is lying because his lips are moving. I haven't been disappointed yet.
As easy as this would have been to put to bed, the fact that it wasn't speaks volumes.

But, it could have happened. For some folks, that he said he did is proof enough.

myntalfloss wrote:Ok, all this coyote talk begs the question.... How many think that Perry actually shot a coyote with a .380 LCP?