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by mojo84
Thu May 29, 2014 6:41 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Arlington Tx Officer seizes CHL holders gun
Replies: 96
Views: 16477

Re: Arlington Tx Officer seizes CHL holders gun

WildBill wrote:
mojo84 wrote:
WildBill wrote:
polly wrote:
EEllis wrote:First can only arrest a person not a car.
Likewise, one can only unlawfully restrain a person not a car.
A car can be unlawfully impounded. ;-)
Did the lady impound their car?
I don't think so. :headscratch
Your comment has me :headscratch .
by mojo84
Thu May 29, 2014 6:27 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Arlington Tx Officer seizes CHL holders gun
Replies: 96
Views: 16477

Re: Arlington Tx Officer seizes CHL holders gun

WildBill wrote:
polly wrote:
EEllis wrote:First can only arrest a person not a car.
Likewise, one can only unlawfully restrain a person not a car.
A car can be unlawfully impounded. ;-)

Did the lady impound their car?
by mojo84
Tue May 27, 2014 9:35 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Arlington Tx Officer seizes CHL holders gun
Replies: 96
Views: 16477

Re: Arlington Tx Officer seizes CHL holders gun

Most of these situations come down to a matter of perspective.

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by mojo84
Tue May 27, 2014 4:22 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Arlington Tx Officer seizes CHL holders gun
Replies: 96
Views: 16477

Re: Arlington Tx Officer seizes CHL holders gun

Looks like she did a good thing by getting a couple of bad guys off the streets. Maybe what she did was just a pretextual stop based on probable suspicion the vehicle had been in a hit and run previously instead of a "crime". At least that's what a cop would claim if they had made the same stop based upon the vehicle fitting a description of a vehicle that had been in a hit and run.

Instead of taking her gun, maybe they should deputize her as that was some goof police work by most accounts. :lol:

I also find it silly the property room won't release the lady's gun and ammo on the same day. :headscratch
by mojo84
Tue May 27, 2014 12:29 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Arlington Tx Officer seizes CHL holders gun
Replies: 96
Views: 16477

Re: Arlington Tx Officer seizes CHL holders gun

Cedar Park Dad wrote:
baseballguy2001 wrote:I hope it isn't the case, but I think this is the last time we will hear publically anyway about this incident. Nothing will happen. As another poster points out, she was told how to get her weapon returned to her and she has it. As for a "crime" being committed -- if it is a crime to block another car in a parking space, stalling for time until Police arrive, if that's a crime, yes, she should have been arrested and her weapon confiscated.
That's not me talking, that's the law. :rules: If Officer Hill didn't want to follow the law, then he needs to find another line of work. Based on the parking space crime theory, he didn't follow the law anyway. He either didn't arrest her for committing a crime, justifying the confiscation, OR, there was no crime committed, and he confiscated her weapon and broke the law anyway. Either way it seems, he exercised an extreme error in judgment. Extreme you say? Yes. One could make a case he violated her second, fourth, and probably sixth amendments to the Constitution. As I said, the APD internal unit has it, there will be no more public disclosures of the investigation, Officer Hill will receive no punishment, this incident is done. On another note -- it's Election runoff day, go exercise your right to vote.

One could argue that being intentionally blocked in constitutes a form of false imprisonment.

It has been proven time and again on here and most any other internet forum anything can be argued.
by mojo84
Tue May 27, 2014 6:52 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Arlington Tx Officer seizes CHL holders gun
Replies: 96
Views: 16477

Re: Arlington Tx Officer seizes CHL holders gun

jmra wrote:
EEllis wrote:The woman committed a crime by blocking in the people's car. She did not have the right to do so. That she got lucky and 2 people were arrested for issues totally unrelated to why she blocked them in doesn't really matter. She did not use her gun in doing so but she easily could of been arrested and she wouldn't be having a CHL right now anyways. This was a cheap lesson that I don't think the woman learned. I think the situation may have been that to keep the gun he should of arrested the woman, which he obviously didn't want to, but he felt something needed to be done. If that is the case who here would of made the cop arrest the woman?
The woman committed a crime? I didn't realize you were the judge and jury in this case.
I'm withholding judgment until I see the report including all facts of the case. I would recommend others do the same. ;-)

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