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Just need to put pressure on the governor to do it. Maybe contracting him would prompt him to do it.

MeMelYup wrote:

jimlongley wrote:

Texas Sheepdog wrote:Our policy says to disarm everyone. If the gun comes back clean and we can verify their credentials, they get the gun back unloaded, and they can reload after they leave the scene. If there's any questions, we can hold onto the gun until we sort things out. Sometimes we hold onto the suspect too, depending on the contact. LOL

That really sounds like disrespect for people with a CHL to me.

More like intimidation and bullying to me.

I'm not going to argue with you EM as I don't think it was intended or written that they could do it without reasonable belief, ("reasonably believes" not "feeling") and just as a matter of standard procedure. Many cops do this as way of reminding the "suspect" who's in charge and who is in control.

You can think what you do and I can think what I do.

Texas Sheepdog's comments are exactly why I've challenged some of the cops on here about disarming a chl without having an actual reason to believe it necessary for officer safety. Some departments and individual cops do it as a matter of SOP regardless of whether the "suspect" gives them reason to believe it necessary for safety reasons.

I also don't buy the idea any decent cop can always articulate a valid reason like one or two on here have said before.

I'm not trying to . However, I ran across this article when I was doing some research on the Houston police chief. The numbers seem kind of high to me.

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas ... 886569.php

Apparently, both Texas CHLs and LEOs have a pretty good track record.

Is there data made public? I couldn't find it.

Gigag04, I agree that may not be the most reliable source. I referenced it as there is very little data on police crime available to the public and that site did have some stats and data they had gathered from public information.

However, in doing some quick research, I ran across this article in an FBI bulletin regarding officer corruption. Thought others may find it of interest. I by no means intend this as a knock on police officers in general as I have several family members that are or have been law enforcement officers including one that was the county sheriff. There are bad apples in every profession, including mine.

I do find it interesting how some officers take on the attitude the end justifies the means, including disarming chlers using the justification of officer safety when in actuality they have no reason to "reasonably" believe it necessary for safety and the real reason is to show their authority and run the gun's serial number without reason to believe it may be stolen. A case of end justifies the means and abuse of authority. This may also apply to traffic stops for the purpose of fishing for other more serious criminal activity.

http://fbi.gov/stats-services/publicati ... ssionalism

Don't know much about the site but they show some stats.

http://copblock.org/tag/police-misconduct-statistics/