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anygunanywhere wrote:Mr Allen, again your description of the gop ticket in 2008 proves my point.

The Bushs did it, 3 times. Three out of four ain't bad!

I bet that really drove the Commies nuts. Here they had the two most prominent families of vote riggers and election stealing in the world, and they got out swaggled by those Bush wimps!

The GOPs biggest liability is its own voters. If anyone is nominated who doesn't agree with each and every position of a voter, that voter picks up his toy, slams his wallet shut, and goes home in a huff. Look at Cruz. He was the savior of conservatism up until a week ago. Now, he's treated like he came in on the bottom of someone's shoe. Admittedly these are strange times, stranger than usual. Everyone has their principles, and God save us if those are abandoned, but those principles are worthless if nobody holds office because they don't get enough votes.

The Commies are more, ahhh, practical. They vote for the Commie, some more than once, as needed, and once in office, adjust everybody's slice of the pie, sooth feelings, give somebody's brother in law a judgeship, approve that dam or new courthouse, and let bygones by bygones.

anygunanywhere wrote:

Your quibble just proves my point which is that the gop can't get elected to the White House even against the worst that the dumbs can nominate (at the time).

It does nothing of the sort.

Were you awake in the 2008 election?

Obama was presented as a brilliant graduate of Columbia and Harvard Law School, almost as charismatic as Bill Clinton, and an African American to boot, "clean and articulate" as Joe The Dumber described him. That he was a former Muslim and present Communist didn't get much mention.

Against him, the GOP for reasons of their own, selected John McCain, an experienced Senator, war hero, but not particularly charming, or all that intelligent it seems. McCain, for reasons of his own, selected Sarah Palin, an exciting and controversial, thinly experienced Governor who provided almost all of the excitement of that ticket.

In the good old days, Americans may have selected their Presidents on merit, their record, accomplishments etc., but not now. After all those years of "American Idol," "Dancing with the Stars" and reality TV, all that old stuff matters little. If they could waive the age requirement, Justin Bieber would get more votes than Trump and Clinton combined. He was born in Canada, I see, so that would have to be waived too. Lucky for us!

Texans once selected "Pass the Biscuits, Pappy" Lee O'Daniel as Governor, and he was the only man to ever beat Lyndon Johnson, in the Senate race if 1940. As far as his record shows, he was a complete moron, but he was sincere, and could sing.

anygunanywhere wrote:

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Topbuilder wrote:Oh, my mistake. I thought we were talking about the GOP that was not able to win elections.

The gop lost the last two elections with the worst president in history in the White House. You knew I was talking about presidential elections. Klin-ton will be the next president for two terms. The majorities in the house and senate are useless since you did not provide any evidence that they neutralize zed the tyrant in chief. The gop cannot win the White House.

Not to quibble, but the worst President in history wasn't in the White House yet the first time. He was "clean and articulate," it was "historic" and the GOP did not really field a major league slate.

As Mark Steyn points out, it's hard to elect a conservative government in a liberal culture, as those terms have come to be used in contemporary parlance.

To quibble, opinions on who is the worst president is just an opinion.

If you are going to quibble, at least quibble over the right thing. The worst President in history wasn't yet in the WH at the time of the 2008 election. He only got there afterwards. He was there for the 2012 election.

SA_Steve wrote:With around 50% of folks getting a check from a gov entity of some kind, the GOP is done forever.

You know any gov workers / retirees / researchers who are Republicans ?
The big money folks back the Dems after buying them off.

The forgiving student debt and making college free will push the Dems over the top this time and forevermore.

If that is the selling point, forevermore may not be as long as it used to be.

anygunanywhere wrote:

Topbuilder wrote:Oh, my mistake. I thought we were talking about the GOP that was not able to win elections.

The gop lost the last two elections with the worst president in history in the White House. You knew I was talking about presidential elections. Klin-ton will be the next president for two terms. The majorities in the house and senate are useless since you did not provide any evidence that they neutralize zed the tyrant in chief. The gop cannot win the White House.

Not to quibble, but the worst President in history wasn't in the White House yet the first time. He was "clean and articulate," it was "historic" and the GOP did not really field a major league slate.

As Mark Steyn points out, it's hard to elect a conservative government in a liberal culture, as those terms have come to be used in contemporary parlance.

Dennis Miller just came up with one, "Kaine and Unable."

The Rangers game was infinitely better, especially when Adrian Beltre hit the first pitch to him out of DFW for a 2 run walk off homer in the 9th.