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by JALLEN
Fri May 27, 2016 7:58 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Solution to TSA Long Lines
Replies: 41
Views: 8157

Re: Solution to TSA Long Lines

ScottDLS wrote:
JALLEN wrote:
ScottDLS wrote:
JALLEN wrote:As big a fiasco as it has become, quite predictably, letting each airport handle security, or each state, would be worse. With people traveling all over the place, state to state, there is some comfort, considerable value, in uniformity.

Look how much we suffer because each state has their own notions about carrying a firearm. Oversight, carelessness, events beyond your control like diverting to New Jersey, and you end up in jail, a felon.

The attitude and methods used by El Al might be scaled up.
We have a republic for a reason. It's better for liberty. Each state currently DOES handle the physical security of airports with the Feds providing the standards by which they must operate. That's why DFW Police patrol the terminal instead of the FBI or Marshals. Until 2002 that's how it was for screening. There was no federal standards against taking box cutters on a plane, and even if there was, it's more likely TSA would miss them than MASSPORT or airline rent-a-cop.
If that is so, why are we griping about the TSA? Each state does not handle security; that's what TSA does, exceptionally poorly.
You didn't read my post. Who handles physical security of airports, patrols the terminals, the grounds, the secure areas? State and local police. TSA only does passenger screening. They are not even Peace Officers or Special Agents, they're not armed, and they don't even have any authority to arrest people. There are a few sworn DHS agents that work with TSA, but only a tiny percentage. It's not even illegal under federal law to carry weapons in terminals, or private aircraft, only scheduled passenger transportation. That's why when they catch somebody carrying in DFW, they don't turn them over to the Marshals or FBI, or DHS, they prosecute them in Tarrant County court. Feds can generally only civilly fine you or put you on the no-fly list.
Sure I did. I was just under the apparent misapprehension that the topic under discussion was TSA, a particular aspect of security with which your post had nothing to do.

I admire precise use of language, but don't get to see it very often.
by JALLEN
Thu May 26, 2016 5:56 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Solution to TSA Long Lines
Replies: 41
Views: 8157

Re: Solution to TSA Long Lines

ScottDLS wrote:
JALLEN wrote:As big a fiasco as it has become, quite predictably, letting each airport handle security, or each state, would be worse. With people traveling all over the place, state to state, there is some comfort, considerable value, in uniformity.

Look how much we suffer because each state has their own notions about carrying a firearm. Oversight, carelessness, events beyond your control like diverting to New Jersey, and you end up in jail, a felon.

The attitude and methods used by El Al might be scaled up.
We have a republic for a reason. It's better for liberty. Each state currently DOES handle the physical security of airports with the Feds providing the standards by which they must operate. That's why DFW Police patrol the terminal instead of the FBI or Marshals. Until 2002 that's how it was for screening. There was no federal standards against taking box cutters on a plane, and even if there was, it's more likely TSA would miss them than MASSPORT or airline rent-a-cop.
If that is so, why are we griping about the TSA? Each state does not handle security; that's what TSA does, exceptionally poorly.
by JALLEN
Thu May 26, 2016 2:05 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Solution to TSA Long Lines
Replies: 41
Views: 8157

Re: Solution to TSA Long Lines

As big a fiasco as it has become, quite predictably, letting each airport handle security, or each state, would be worse. With people traveling all over the place, state to state, there is some comfort, considerable value, in uniformity.

Look how much we suffer because each state has their own notions about carrying a firearm. Oversight, carelessness, events beyond your control like diverting to New Jersey, and you end up in jail, a felon.

The attitude and methods used by El Al might be scaled up.
by JALLEN
Thu May 26, 2016 12:53 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Solution to TSA Long Lines
Replies: 41
Views: 8157

Re: Solution to TSA Long Lines

Close TSA, fire the workers and contract the job to El Al.

The airlines are teetering on the edge of bankruptcy, the ones who have avoided it so far. Making them civilly liable, even more than they are already, solves nothing.

We have to quit playing stupid games and get serious, even if it offends a few, or quite a few, or most of them.

I hasten to add that I can't travel by air anymore as a practical matter, so my dog in this fight may have run away.

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