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by JALLEN
Thu May 19, 2016 12:19 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Missing CoSponsor for H.R.923 - Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2015
Replies: 35
Views: 7709

Re: Missing CoSponsor for H.R.923 - Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2015

Solaris wrote:
JALLEN wrote:
Solaris wrote:
JALLEN wrote:
Solaris wrote:
JALLEN wrote: You may well have access to information I do not, but the fact that it has been referred to a subcommittee in March 2015 without action since impresses on me the conclusion that this bill was not seriously going to be considered or acted upon, and now with silly season in full swing, nothing will be done. The bill will die at session end, perhaps to be reintroduced in the next Congress, likely to await the same fate.
Do nothing Republican Congress strikes again.

50 state LEOSA seems to be working well for LEOs.
Not exactly.
Yes exactly. Read your own quote. "nothing will be done."
Don't be silly.

The Commies have controlled Congress for most of my lifetime.
You are either very old or very young. :cheers2: Either way, it does not matter. What matters is who is in control NOW, or in the most recent past.

Republicans have controlled Congress most of the last 20 years. House 16 of the last 20 years, Senate 12 of the last 20 years.

And more to the point, the Republicans have controlled both House & Senate since this bill was introduced.

And what do we have to show for it? Nothing. And the Trump payback is the result.
The pattern persists no matter who is in control. You are either exceedingly dense, or stubbornly unable to admit political reality. I suppose the third option possible is that you want to get in your licks on a Republican Congress, no matter what.

The gripe you have is real, and widely recognized, but not what is responsible for this bill's treatment.
by JALLEN
Thu May 19, 2016 10:00 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Missing CoSponsor for H.R.923 - Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2015
Replies: 35
Views: 7709

Re: Missing CoSponsor for H.R.923 - Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2015

Solaris wrote:
JALLEN wrote:
Solaris wrote:
JALLEN wrote: You may well have access to information I do not, but the fact that it has been referred to a subcommittee in March 2015 without action since impresses on me the conclusion that this bill was not seriously going to be considered or acted upon, and now with silly season in full swing, nothing will be done. The bill will die at session end, perhaps to be reintroduced in the next Congress, likely to await the same fate.
Do nothing Republican Congress strikes again.

50 state LEOSA seems to be working well for LEOs.
Not exactly.
Yes exactly. Read your own quote. "nothing will be done."
Don't be silly.

The Commies have controlled Congress for most of my lifetime. As far as I have records, Congress typically passes 2-5% of the bills and resolutions introduced. The rest are not even read officially. It has nothing to do with "do nothing Republicans" at all, and everything to do with the phenomena I described.
by JALLEN
Thu May 19, 2016 7:47 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Missing CoSponsor for H.R.923 - Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2015
Replies: 35
Views: 7709

Re: Missing CoSponsor for H.R.923 - Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2015

Solaris wrote:
JALLEN wrote: You may well have access to information I do not, but the fact that it has been referred to a subcommittee in March 2015 without action since impresses on me the conclusion that this bill was not seriously going to be considered or acted upon, and now with silly season in full swing, nothing will be done. The bill will die at session end, perhaps to be reintroduced in the next Congress, likely to await the same fate.
Do nothing Republican Congress strikes again.

50 state LEOSA seems to be working well for LEOs.
Not exactly. There are 10-12,000 bills and resolutions introduced in each session of Congress. Typically 2-5% ever see the light of day.

This is probably for the best. As Calvin Coolidge said, "“It is much more important to kill bad bills than to pass good ones.”

I have proposed bills on several occasions, none recently. It is easy to find a Congressman to introduce a bill, unless it is likely to be extremely controversial. It is a good way to curry favor with a constituent. Co sponsoring is the same, with less bother. Everyone realizes it will be referred to a committee along with hundreds of others, and unless it catches the eye of the leadership, nothing will happen.

It may happen that a bill has little support the first time, but the proponents work the room over a period of time, meet with legislators, form pressure groups, engage lobbyists, write letters, make phone calls, drum up support so that after being introduced repeatedly, an idea gains traction and is voted on.
by JALLEN
Wed May 18, 2016 9:05 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Missing CoSponsor for H.R.923 - Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2015
Replies: 35
Views: 7709

Re: Missing CoSponsor for H.R.923 - Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2015

Charles L. Cotton wrote:
JALLEN wrote:Some bills are introduced for passing, some for constituent impressing.

This one seems to be in the latter category. It is languishing in Subcommittee going nowhere.
No, it is not to impress anyone. Many federal pro-gun bills must be filed in several sessions to get them passed. Obviously, if this one passes, Obama will veto the Bill, but passage will make it easier to either 1) pass it next session; or 2) add the Bill's language to other critical bills.

Chas.
You may well have access to information I do not, but the fact that it has been referred to a subcommittee in March 2015 without action since impresses on me the conclusion that this bill was not seriously going to be considered or acted upon, and now with silly season in full swing, nothing will be done. The bill will die at session end, perhaps to be reintroduced in the next Congress, likely to await the same fate.
by JALLEN
Wed May 18, 2016 11:55 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Missing CoSponsor for H.R.923 - Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2015
Replies: 35
Views: 7709

Re: Missing CoSponsor for H.R.923 - Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2015

Some bills are introduced for passing, some for constituent impressing.

This one seems to be in the latter category. It is languishing in Subcommittee going nowhere.

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