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Shinesintx wrote: Also, I really dont care too much for the Citizens of the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia...but you seem decent enough...get here as fast as you can.

Actually, I'm a Native Houstonian, an expat here for many years.

I don't much like Californians either, especially the ones who are in the Legislature, and the ones who voted for them.

Shinesintx wrote: On a side note, not that you accused me, but I started this thread to if if some had changed their mind as to what they carry. It was not to start another caliber war...it was purely to see if anyone was second guessing themselves like I was. I am getting close to selling a P220 to fund a Kimber Solo or CW 45...maybe both?

Why would anyone sell a P220? I just finished reading Chris Kyle's book, American Sniper, and that is what he prefers, although the news item about his carjacking claimed he used a 1911. News reports are seldom accurate, of course.

The .45 I like best is the HK45, which I intend to buy as soon as I take up residence in Texas. Those are not on the approved list here, so can only be bought from someone who has one legally, like a LEO, or someone who moved here with one. I had a HK45C and was very much impressed. I also have a P7M8 which I have been well-pleased with but it is 8 shots of 9mm, and gets hot very fast. I sold the 45C in anticipation of a move, but here I still sit waiting on the house to sell.

Shinesintx wrote: The cafe robbery in Florida made me rethink the idea of relying on a .380.

Yep, me too! The guy just ran away.

That's not the worst outcome by any means.

The shooter in that situation didn't really get a solid hit on either of them, tough to do with any caliber because once the shooting started, they were all over themselves getting out of there. I imagine the pre-op briefing didn't cover the possibility of a crazy old man shooting at them.

Here is a Dr. view of gunshot wounds: " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's lengthy but for anyone who hasn't shot people for a living in a variety of circumstances, it is time well spent, so you know what to expect.