I remember visiting Matamoros years ago.

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Re: I remember visiting Matamoros years ago.

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VMI77 wrote:
Cedar Park Dad wrote:I don't think you need intent for a speeding violation, just saying. ;-)

Honey mooned there. Would not go back, even to "safe areas." The craziness is out of control.
Yeah, but a speeding violation is not a criminal act, it's a civil violation.
Wrong. It is a Class C misdemeanor.
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carlson1 wrote:
VMI77 wrote:
Cedar Park Dad wrote:I don't think you need intent for a speeding violation, just saying. ;-)

Honey mooned there. Would not go back, even to "safe areas." The craziness is out of control.
Yeah, but a speeding violation is not a criminal act, it's a civil violation.
Wrong. It is a Class C misdemeanor.
That is what I was taught lo those many years ago.(1978)
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Re: I remember visiting Matamoros years ago.

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carlson1 wrote:
VMI77 wrote:
Cedar Park Dad wrote:I don't think you need intent for a speeding violation, just saying. ;-)

Honey mooned there. Would not go back, even to "safe areas." The craziness is out of control.
Yeah, but a speeding violation is not a criminal act, it's a civil violation.
Wrong. It is a Class C misdemeanor.
Ok, I made a lazy distinction. Call it what you want, but I've been ticketed for speeding in many states and I've never spent one minute in a jail cell as a result. It's a violation that results in a fine, not imprisonment. It also could be argued that it's a act that includes intent, as the only way to speed accidentally is ignore traffic signs or have a broken speedometer. And even those claims to lack intent are dubious since it is easy not to exceed the speed limit even with a broken speedometer or missing a speed limit sign. Mens rea is an important element of the US legal system (what there is left of it anyway):
Mens rea (/ˈmɛnz ˈreɪɪə/; Latin for "guilty mind".[1]), in criminal law, is viewed as one of the necessary elements of some crimes. The standard common law test of criminal liability is usually expressed in the Latin phrase, actus reus non facit reum nisi mens sit rea, which means "the act is not culpable unless the mind is guilty". Thus, in jurisdictions with due process, there must be an actus reus, or "guilty act", accompanied by some level of mens rea to constitute the crime with which the defendant is charged (see the technical requirement of concurrence). As a general rule, criminal liability does not attach to a person who merely acted with the absence of mental fault. The exception is strict liability crimes.
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Re: I remember visiting Matamoros years ago.

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Traffic tickets are in some way different. When the officer asks "do you know you were speeding?"
And you say yes, he can use that in a court of law against you.
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VMI77 wrote:
carlson1 wrote:Wrong. It is a Class C misdemeanor.
Ok, I made a lazy distinction. Call it what you want, but I've been ticketed for speeding in many states and I've never spent one minute in a jail cell as a result. It's a violation that results in a fine, not imprisonment.
That's true for Class C Misdemeanors in general, not just traffic offenses.
http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/D ... /PE.12.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

VMI77 wrote:It also could be argued that it's a act that includes intent, as the only way to speed accidentally is ignore traffic signs or have a broken speedometer.
I disagree. In many parts of Texas, you can drive with the flow of traffic without knowing you're over the posted limit.
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Texsquatch wrote:I absolutely miss going to Nuevo Laredo to shop and eat. We me great restaurants that were as fancy as anything here.
We used to go about twice a year too.. Honestly I don't understand it.
When I choose to run my drug empire as part of a mostly-corrupt nation, how does killing civilians help my business? I'm pretty sure I'd have a "don't hurt the tourists" policy.
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Wolverine wrote:
VMI77 wrote:
carlson1 wrote:Wrong. It is a Class C misdemeanor.
Ok, I made a lazy distinction. Call it what you want, but I've been ticketed for speeding in many states and I've never spent one minute in a jail cell as a result. It's a violation that results in a fine, not imprisonment.
That's true for Class C Misdemeanors in general, not just traffic offenses.
http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/D ... /PE.12.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

VMI77 wrote:It also could be argued that it's a act that includes intent, as the only way to speed accidentally is ignore traffic signs or have a broken speedometer.
I disagree. In many parts of Texas, you can drive with the flow of traffic without knowing you're over the posted limit.
Seriously, driving with the flow prevents you from reading your speedometer? Funny you mention the flow....my college roommate got stopped by a Virginia State cop and told him he was just moving with the flow of traffic. The officer told him it looked more like he was creating the flow, and gave him a ticket.
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cb1000rider wrote: Honestly I don't understand it.
When I choose to run my drug empire as part of a mostly-corrupt nation, how does killing civilians help my business? I'm pretty sure I'd have a "don't hurt the tourists" policy.
Guess we can't expect good business judgment or choices from psychopathic criminals living in a totally corrupt environment. :banghead:
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Jumping Frog wrote:Guess we can't expect good business judgment or choices from psychopathic criminals living in a totally corrupt environment. :banghead:
That's the best explanation so far for what goes on in NYC, DC, Chicago....
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