Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?

[JKTex]

Under pressure...... She needs to make a statement. Maybe she's perplexed as to how and what to say, knowing she can't undo what she said.

[Charlies.Contingency]

still no response as of today from the Mayor, I figured my gmail may have been blocked by a firewall rule within the city, so I emailed the News station that carried the story.

Just got back this reply..

Hi there,

My name is Madeline-- I am the reporter who covered that story.

I, too, emailed the Mayor of Tom Bean with no response. Tomorrow, I will follow up with a phone call and see where that gets me.

I really appreciate your interest in this story. I will be sure to provide an update ASAP, so be on the lookout!

Regards,

Madeline Schmitt
Morning Reporter | KXII-TV
madeline.schmitt@kxii.com
(254)289-3205
Twitter: @madelinedenise

See what develops..

Any new updates on this? I've been following this for a while, and I would like to find out her response, and what they are going to do !

[Charlies.Contingency]

I emailed the reporter..

no response back from her.. I'll try again..

Thank you. If it were my local government, I would be hounding every day for answers. You don't get to declare that you're establishing a law violating our 2nd amendment rights, AND in direct violation against Texas law. There are no free passes, and somebody willing to establish something against the law show's their true colors, and I see an anti-gun flag over her.

[bigity]

Shouldn't that only apply if court is in session? Which I guess would be most of the day I suppose, though if anything like some other small towns, it's whenever the judge decides he wants to hold court that day...or week.

[Charlies.Contingency]

The reporter has been questioning them as well apparently..

the web page to the news: http://www.kxii.com/home/headlines/City ... 71651.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

now has an update posted on it..

***UPDATE***

According to state legislature, the law Mayor Howard references, Sec. 30.06 in the Texas penal code, is not enforceable if "the property on which the license holder carries a handgun is owned or leased by a governmental entity."
Sec. 46.035(c) of the Texas penal code, however, states that licensed concealed handguns are illegal "at any meeting of a governmental entity" so long as the 30.06 sign is posted.
On Oct. 7, Tom Bean Police Chief Frank Deater responded to News 12's request for comment on the issue.
Deater replied, in an email:
"We here in Tom Bean, Texas are like many small communities that have only one main building and use it for multi functional purposes.
We at city hall house, the water department, the city secretary office, the Mayor’s Office, the Library, the Police Department and the city court.
The penal code address places where weapons are prohibited. In penal code section 46.03 subsection (3) on the premises of any government court or offices utilized by the court, unless regulations or written authorizations of the court.
City court activity is an everyday function here at the Tom Bean city hall. This is the reason that we posted the law for our customers and citizens who carry. With the city court here, it is illegal to carry on these premises."

Notice he said premises? Giving the impression that it's illegal to carry around there, but he does not emphasize on the meaning of premises for the ill informed. I think they're just covering their tails with this bull Excuse.

[Keith B]

Shouldn't that only apply if court is in session? Which I guess would be most of the day I suppose, though if anything like some other small towns, it's whenever the judge decides he wants to hold court that day...or week.

No. If the locaiton is a court room or offices of the court, then they are off-limits at all times. And premises in this case is defined as byuilding or portion of a building. So, depending on the layout unless the court is in an area that is totally cordoned off from the other offices, the building would pretty well be off-limits.

[MeMelYup]

Just repeal 46.03 and 46.035 and list courtrooms and court offices if posted 30.06.

[Charlies.Contingency]

Shouldn't that only apply if court is in session? Which I guess would be most of the day I suppose, though if anything like some other small towns, it's whenever the judge decides he wants to hold court that day...or week.

No. If the locaiton is a court room or offices of the court, then they are off-limits at all times. And premises in this case is defined as byuilding or portion of a building. So, depending on the layout unless the court is in an area that is totally cordoned off from the other offices, the building would pretty well be off-limits.

Kinda like Wilson County Texas. The court room is at the entrance to the rest of the building last time I went through there. They had a 30-06 sign at the front, and a metal detector inside the door.

[JKTex]

They're still wrong. 30.06 has nothing to do with carrying in a court.

Carry may be illegal if the building does house a court, but they still don't understand the law, and still don't understand that.

[C-dub]

They're still wrong. 30.06 has nothing to do with carrying in a court.

Carry may be illegal if the building does house a court, but they still don't understand the law, and still don't understand that.

True, they are posting a sign that is unnecessary, but think of it more as a reminder. If I were to go there I would not know there is a court in that building. Or is it obvious that there is a court in there, like a sign that indicates what offices there are?

[Charlies.Contingency]

They're still wrong. 30.06 has nothing to do with carrying in a court.

Carry may be illegal if the building does house a court, but they still don't understand the law, and still don't understand that.

True, they are posting a sign that is unnecessary, but think of it more as a reminder. If I were to go there I would not know there is a court in that building. Or is it obvious that there is a court in there, like a sign that indicates what offices there are?

Not that I recall, I just remember a sign sayin Wilson County, and there bing another sign somewhere indicative of the sheriff's office. My old department had signs outfront recognizing the court, and scanners inside the door for when court was in session. I forgot what signage they had there, but I was allowed to carry anyway, being I was escorting inmates.

[thechl]

City buildings in Schertz,TX.

The public library there is the most obvious offender.

[paxton25]

I don't know if it was mentioned before but Bayou Vista has a community center that is posted.