Can you carry a Krinkov Concealed?

[knight-walker]

Just need a plus 2 size Hawaiian shirt. [ Image ]

Thanks for the picture by the way, it was taking me forever to find any holsters for that firearm besides slings.

[knight-walker]

I am told a Century Zastava PAP M92 is considered a 'pistol and handgun', so does that mean you can carry it concealed?
If possible could you quote a Texas Concealed Handgun law or Selected Statute would prohibit or allow it.

Thanks and much appreciated.

Under the Federal law, the Zastava M92 is a pistol or handgun. Texas Penal Code Ch 46 defines a handgun as "(5) "Handgun" means any firearm that is designed, made, or adapted to be fired with one hand." It's tough to hold an AK pistol with one hand, but it can be done, so I expect most people use two hands. But then, most people use, and are taught to use, two hands to fire any handgun, so I don't think that's a problem.

The CHL statutes permit you to carry a concealed handgun, so voila.

As a practical matter, it might be a bit tough. the one-point-sling-under-a-long-coat is one option, or simply carrying it in a bag would probably work best. And if someone noticed, it might get some questions. Just because you know it's a handgun and legal to carry doesn't mean everyone else does. People get their panties in a wad over kids playing with airsofts and tiny keychain fobs, so there is no accounting for the ignorant, the illogical, and the hoplophobic.

Why would you want to? It would certainly provide a quantum leap in power over any of the more usual pistol calibers. On the other hand, that same characteristic would make it tough to control and keep on target reliably beyond very close range.

Manticore makes a very nice flash hider for this particular pistol,the NightShroud

Like I said to a different user, personal choice and taste. I am a big fan of Zastava and the AK variants. It would be impractical to most people, but if the government hasn't infringed on the rights to carry firearms of that caliber and size, I would like to carry that one.

[knight-walker]

By the way, a pendantic nit:

"Krinkov" refers to a AK-pattern short-barreled rifle, not a pistol; the name came from a Soviet soldier who was captured with one during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. IIRC it was the first time a short-barreled version had been seen by the West, or at least made it into the popular press. Under US law, shortbarreled rifles have (rifle) stocks and barrels less than 16" long, among other characteristics.

The Soviets did not call it a Krinkov, a Krinkov was just some unluckly soldier. Officially it had a numerical designation, unofficially it had a Russian name whose translation is not permitted on this forum.

But a lot of Serbian M92s, Romanian Dracos, and similar AK-pattern pistols end up as "Krinkovs," so you are not too far off.

I know what you are talking about man, if I was a home owner instead of an apartment renter I would consider getting one for home defense with an underfolding stock. I did an experiment video online of what a 9mm with 4 different types and grains of bullets and a 12 gauge with doveshot would do to 2 layers of dry wall to simulate missing your target in a shootout in an apartment. Even at 40 feet, the birdshot was still going through 2 separate walls of drywall ! It stinks that if you live in an apartment and get put into a use of force situation, if you miss... I feel bad for the neighbor on the couch, watching television. You have to account for and be responsible for every bullet that is shot from your firearm.

[knight-walker]

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I know I do, my holiday ham is finished ! HAHA

[knight-walker]

Why would anyone want to?

The same reason some people buy BMW's or Audi's with 560 Horsepower instead of vehicles like Volkswagen Westfalia which have only 90 Horsepower, Personal Choice / or taste.

No, I think they are compensating.

Even if they were compensating, what's the problem? Affecting the societal norm? The reason I originally got into firearms and got training and armed was around the time Obama and Feinstein were threatening our rights. I got armed initially as a political statement to the government.

Thomas Jefferson once said,

“The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.”

Another good quote you also might like.

“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms . . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes . . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.”
― Thomas Jefferson

Our founding father's weren't stupid as some of the media tries to label them.

[knight-walker]

Even with a 20 round mad, it won't be easy. Maybe with a trench coat and a sling on the shoulder.

I know man, I don't want to get a trench coat. In this day and age, not only is it out of style in my area, but would probably make you immediately a suspicious character.

If you ever had you use a gun for self defense if they assumed you already looked suspicious and possibly be packing, that would take away the tactical advantage of having it concealed.

[Abraham]

knight-walker,

I'm right there with you.

One of the often asked questions by anti-gun folk is why would one would want a high capacity magazine or gawd forbid an AR 15, or in your case a Krinkov?

We don't have to justify what we want- we're Americans.

[Beiruty]

As for 20rd or 30rd magazine, I would imagine A mag well on a front swivel would help to conceal.

Anyways, concealing a P90S is a better idea.

[knight-walker]

As for 20rd or 30rd magazine, I would imagine A mag well on a front swivel would help to conceal.

Anyways, concealing a P90S is a better idea.

I was looking up what a P90S was, now I know. I think you are right. It does look more practical than an M92 or 'krinkov'.

I learned something today, thanks!

[K.Mooneyham]

By the way, a pendantic nit:

"Krinkov" refers to a AK-pattern short-barreled rifle, not a pistol; the name came from a Soviet soldier who was captured with one during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. IIRC it was the first time a short-barreled version had been seen by the West, or at least made it into the popular press. Under US law, shortbarreled rifles have (rifle) stocks and barrels less than 16" long, among other characteristics.

The Soviets did not call it a Krinkov, a Krinkov was just some unluckly soldier. Officially it had a numerical designation, unofficially it had a Russian name whose translation is not permitted on this forum.

But a lot of Serbian M92s, Romanian Dracos, and similar AK-pattern pistols end up as "Krinkovs," so you are not too far off.

I know that one of the nicknames for the AKS-74u was окурок (okurok), which translates to "cigarette stub".