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Jaguar wrote:Pffft - it's all an urban myth. Nothing to see here, move along. Just a few random assaults.

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Re: knockout game

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Oops, wrong victim.

http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/matt-vesp ... r-attacker" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Edit to add - after watching the video a couple times I believe the camera man was recording the event prior to the attack and was hoping to catch his buddy knocking out a lady. At the beginning he can be hear saying, "let's go" and when the guy catches the foot to the face he seems to grunt in empathy. At the end he is saying, "yeah, he just hit her" trying to blend in with the crowd. He should be kicked in the face as well.
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Re: knockout game

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Jaguar wrote:Oops, wrong victim.

http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/matt-vesp ... r-attacker" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Edit to add - after watching the video a couple times I believe the camera man was recording the event prior to the attack and was hoping to catch his buddy knocking out a lady. At the beginning he can be hear saying, "let's go" and when the guy catches the foot to the face he seems to grunt in empathy. At the end he is saying, "yeah, he just hit her" trying to blend in with the crowd. He should be kicked in the face as well.
This was not a case of the knockout game. Apparently the individuals knew each other. She still whooped him good.
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Re: knockout game

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Keith B wrote:
Jaguar wrote:Oops, wrong victim.

http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/matt-vesp ... r-attacker" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Edit to add - after watching the video a couple times I believe the camera man was recording the event prior to the attack and was hoping to catch his buddy knocking out a lady. At the beginning he can be hear saying, "let's go" and when the guy catches the foot to the face he seems to grunt in empathy. At the end he is saying, "yeah, he just hit her" trying to blend in with the crowd. He should be kicked in the face as well.
This was not a case of the knockout game. Apparently the individuals knew each other. She still whooped him good.
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Re: knockout game

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I guess it is a hate crime..... well if the attacker is white and trying to prove a point.
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suthdj wrote:I guess it is a hate crime..... well if the attacker is white and trying to prove a point.
http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/237316841.html
Make sure he get's publicity and then lock him up. The brothers in the 'big house' want to meet him and shake his hand...or something.
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Oldgringo wrote: Make sure he get's publicity and then lock him up. The brothers in the 'big house' want to meet him and shake his hand...or something.
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Re: knockout game

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What kind of punishment are they handing out for this game? I guarantee it's not enough.
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Re: knockout game

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I hate "hate crime" laws. (How's that for a play on words?) Seriously, I'm opposed to all so-called hate crime laws for three reasons. First, it values some lives over others, based solely upon the motivation for the attack. That's not equal protection under the law. Secondly, victims are no more or less dead or injured based upon the motivation for the attack. Finally, so-called hate crimes make motivation an element of the offense and that is even more subjective and more likely to result in speculation by a jury. (I'm also opposed to murder of a LEO being a capital offense, while murdering an non-LEO is not unless other factors are present. Again, this values certain lives more than others.)

This guy committed an aggravated assault and should be charged, convicted and sentenced accordingly. I do find it interesting that, to my knowledge, this is the first person charged under federal hate crime statues.

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Former assistant U.S. attorney Fred Tecce said it appears the suspect here is a "terrible guy." But he, too, questioned the role of federal prosecutors.

"We have had a ton of these knockout cases," he said. "Part of your role as prosecutors and part of the role of the Justice Department is to send a message to the public that ... the law applies to everyone."

He added: "Why is this the first knockout case that the DOJ has decided to render an indictment on?"

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/12 ... e-why-now/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: knockout game

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Charles L. Cotton wrote:I hate "hate crime" laws. (How's that for a play on words?) Seriously, I'm opposed to all so-called hate crime laws for three reasons. First, it values some lives over others, based solely upon the motivation for the attack. That's not equal protection under the law. Secondly, victims are no more or less dead or injured based upon the motivation for the attack. Finally, so-called hate crimes make motivation an element of the offense and that is even more subjective and more likely to result in speculation by a jury. (I'm also opposed to murder of a LEO being a capital offense, while murdering an non-LEO is not unless other factors are present. Again, this values certain lives more than others.)

This guy committed an aggravated assault and should be charged, convicted and sentenced accordingly. I do find it interesting that, to my knowledge, this is the first person charged under federal hate crime statues. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/12 ... e-why-now/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: knockout game

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