8 year old shoots and kills 90 year old grandmother

[philip964]

http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article ... cmpid=hpbn" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Previously was playing Grand Theft Auto IV, before deciding to shoot grandmother in back of the head while she was watching TV.

In Louisiana, he can't be charged with a crime, since his is under 10, so he was released to his parents.

He said the gun accidentally went off.

I have made the assumption it was his grandmother, as that would be the logical choice for a 90 year old relative, who was taking care of him.

RIP

[jmra]

What idiot lets an 8 year old play grand theft auto?

[pewter99ta]

What idiot lets an 8 year old play grand theft auto?

...and gave him free access to a gun?

[cheezit]

the media say video games and tv programing have no connection to such things. I read that on the internet

[anomie]

the media say video games and tv programing have no connection to such things. I read that on the internet

In general, it doesn't. If the parents are doing their job, the kids will know the difference between fantasy and reality.

It's the same sort of logic w/ anti-gunners, imho. Something like this happens and they say 'See, the problem is guns!' when the vast majority of gun owners have no problems at all. It's just like that - if T.V. and video games were actually a problem in the general case, the way that some people hype it, we'd all be dead already, just like if guns were actually a problem in the general case, the way anti-gunners hype it, we'd all be dead already.

[C-dub]

Could be Great Grandma.

I was wondering the same thing about an 8-year old playing GTA.

[philip964]

So do you give the child a good spanking?

Ground him for a week?

Take away his video player for a week?

Send him to bed with out dinner?

[carlson1]

So do you give the child a good spanking?

Ground him for a week?

Take away his video player for a week?

Send him to bed with out dinner?

Adopt him out to a great home and get him a lot of counseling.

[philip964]

So do you give the child a good spanking?

Ground him for a week?

Take away his video player for a week?

Send him to bed with out dinner?

Adopt him out to a great home and get him a lot of counseling.

This is a nature nurture kind of thing. I tend to believe in nature. Nurture can have an effect, but less so than nature. My view would be how old till he kills again and would you feel safe at night in the same house.

[carlson1]

So do you give the child a good spanking?

Ground him for a week?

Take away his video player for a week?

Send him to bed with out dinner?

Adopt him out to a great home and get him a lot of counseling.

This is a nature nurture kind of thing. I tend to believe in nature. Nurture can have an effect, but less so than nature. My view would be how old till he kills again and would you feel safe at night in the same house.

I don't think I could ever feel safe with him anywhere. If he is not completely reprogrammed what will he do when he is 13 or 16 when he gets "bored" like those killers in Oklahoma?

I don't have enough experience or the know-how to deal with something like this.

[drjoker]

Send the kid to a Siberian boarding school for 1 year. My younger brother had some behavioral problems. My parents sent him to a Siberian boarding school for the summer. 6 weeks in, we got an urgent telegram saying that we must take him back because the school officials feared that my brother won't survive the summer. When we got him back, he looked like one of those holocaust victims, he was so skinny. To this day, he would cry about it as a grown man if you ask him about it. But, you know what, he never did misbehave again as a child after he came back from Siberia. When he started to misbehave, my parents would threaten to send him back there. That would nip the bad behavior in the bud.

Siberia is huge and is shared by Mongolia, China, and Russia. My brother went to a boarding school in Chinese Siberia, otherwise known as Xinjiang province.

Today, Xinjiang is modern and has KFCs, McDonald's, etc. However, back in the 1980s, Xinjiang was a real hell hole with unreliable electricity so that food in refrigerators was never fresh. There were insects and maggots in many foods. You just cooked everything and ate it all. The insects were just extra protein. My brother refused to eat much of the food because of the insect problem. It was very dry there. He refused to use rancid animal fat for his chapped lips. His lips looked like a raw mess.

This is NOT where he went, but it is very similar:
http://photography.nationalgeographic.c ... 996-sw.jpg

The Germans send their troubled youths to Siberia as an alternative sentence to institutionalization:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10252405?ls

So do you give the child a good spanking?

Ground him for a week?

Take away his video player for a week?

Send him to bed with out dinner?

Adopt him out to a great home and get him a lot of counseling.

This is a nature nurture kind of thing. I tend to believe in nature. Nurture can have an effect, but less so than nature. My view would be how old till he kills again and would you feel safe at night in the same house.

I don't think I could ever feel safe with him anywhere. If he is not completely reprogrammed what will he do when he is 13 or 16 when he gets "bored" like those killers in Oklahoma?

I don't have enough experience or the know-how to deal with something like this.

[baldeagle]

So do you give the child a good spanking?

Ground him for a week?

Take away his video player for a week?

Send him to bed with out dinner?

One thing you do is think long and hard about keeping him in your house. If he did it to Grandma, what's to stop him from doing it to you? Better keep those guns locked up and take that video machine away from him now, before you end up with your brains splattered all over the walls.

[rbwhatever1]

This little psychopath skipped killing neighborhood puppies and cats and went straight for a human. Extermination would be in order, sooner rather than later. Nature needs to run it's course here with the help of this little miscreants creators.

[jmra]

This little psychopath skipped killing neighborhood puppies and cats and went straight for a human. Extermination would be in order, sooner rather than later. Nature needs to run it's course here with the help of this little miscreants creators.

Are you saying you want to administer the death penalty to an 8 year old?

[jmra]

the media say video games and tv programing have no connection to such things. I read that on the internet

In general, it doesn't. If the parents are doing their job, the kids will know the difference between fantasy and reality.

It's the same sort of logic w/ anti-gunners, imho. Something like this happens and they say 'See, the problem is guns!' when the vast majority of gun owners have no problems at all. It's just like that - if T.V. and video games were actually a problem in the general case, the way that some people hype it, we'd all be dead already, just like if guns were actually a problem in the general case, the way anti-gunners hype it, we'd all be dead already.

A couple of questions:
1. Do you know the content of grand theft auto? (Assault, murder, rape - these actually get you points)
2. Have you ever worked with kids?
There is little doubt that an 8 year old exposed over an extended period of time to the violence of a video game like GTA would be significantly desensitized to to the real world affects of their actions. I don't blame this kid. I blame the adults who used a video game as a bady sitter and the adults who left a loaded firearm within reach of an obvious troubled child.