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An example of how NOT to handle traffic arguments

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This is bad from beginning to end. I don't see one single good decision being made in this video.

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Annnnnnd, he ended up firing at them. *facepalm*

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NEWPORT, N.C. -
A Lenoir County couple is behind bars tonight for allegedly attacking a driver in a violent case of road rage.

Deputies say 40-year-old Bradley Turner from La Grange took out his anger Sunday morning at another man who cut him off while driving.

Turner allegedly started punching his victim, a man in a white baseball cap, after following him from James City to his house in Newport. The victim's friend shot cell phone video of the whole thing.

Eventually the suspect's wife, 30-year-old Christy Turner, came out with a gun.

Deputies say her husband shot at his victims, missing them, but hitting the victim's car and a neighbor's home.

"That's a big concern, because you never know what will come up next," said Antonio Suban, whose home was damaged from the gunfire.

Deputies say Bradley and Christy Turner turned themselves into the Lenoir County Sheriff's Office this afternoon.

Turner has been charged with discharging a weapon into property, two counts of assault by pointing a gun, Going Armed to the Terror of People, Injury to Personal Property and Assault. Christy Turner has been charged with two counts of assault by pointing a gun.

--Previous Story__

Deputies have released video from a shooting they say was the result of road rage.

It happened around 1 o'clock Sunday on Highway 70 near English Street in Newport.

Deputies say the shooting was a result of road rage that started on the highway in the James City area of Craven County.

Investigators want to track down the driver of the vehicle, a female passenger, and a toddler.

Video obtained by the sheriff's office shows what happened just before the driver allegedly fired several rounds at the other vehicle. The suspect confronts the other driver, punching at one of them, before two people leap out and attack him. A woman comes to his aid with a handgun, handing it to the suspect, who then confronts his attackers. He then takes off with the woman, and a toddler.

Now deputies are looking for an ash or gray colored SUV. The Carteret County Sheriff's Office is urging the family wanted for questioning to call them.

If you know where this family is, call the Sheriffs Office at (252) 504-4800 or the Carteret County Communications Center at (252) 726-1911.
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Lol... Looks like fat boy got his butt handed to him. There is probably a lesson in there somewhere. :mrgreen:

If he fired the weapon, I am amazed he isn't being charged with aggravated assault and attempted murder.
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03Lightningrocks wrote:Lol... Looks like fat boy got his butt handed to him. There is probably a lesson in there somewhere. :mrgreen:

If he fired the weapon, I am amazed he isn't being charged with aggravated assault and attempted murder.
Got his butt handed to him in the driveway and is going to get his butt handed to him in court.
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Didn't watch the video, but did read the details of the incident above. Hmm...either didn't notice someone following him, or didn't care. Definitely should not have gone to his house while being followed. Sanity would have been to notice the car following you, don't go home and call the police while driving to apprise them of the situation. Handle it when the police show up.

And yes, I do habitually check my mirrors and over my shoulder while sitting at lights and driving. I don't like surprises from street vendors, beggars or carjackers. These days, I also watch for vehicles behind me that always seem to be there, just in case they thought I cut them off in traffic. If so, I don't go to my house. I don't want someone with a bad attitude knowing where I live....

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gthaustex wrote:Didn't watch the video, but did read the details of the incident above. Hmm...either didn't notice someone following him, or didn't care. Definitely should not have gone to his house while being followed. Sanity would have been to notice the car following you, don't go home and call the police while driving to apprise them of the situation. Handle it when the police show up.

And yes, I do habitually check my mirrors and over my shoulder while sitting at lights and driving. I don't like surprises from street vendors, beggars or carjackers. These days, I also watch for vehicles behind me that always seem to be there, just in case they thought I cut them off in traffic. If so, I don't go to my house. I don't want someone with a bad attitude knowing where I live....

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I was thinking the two younger guys didn't realize the guy was following them. Maybe they did and figured home would be safe? Hard to tell. I am constantly busy with work issues and have to admit to being distracted enough at times by phone calls or other work related issues to not notice being followed. I would however notice if someone pulled into the alley right behind me as I headed toward my driveway.

It takes a special kind of meat head to follow a person around with the intentions of "schooling" them on driving etiquette. ;-)
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03Lightningrocks wrote: It takes a special kind of meat head to follow a person around with the intentions of "schooling" them on driving etiquette. ;-)
I remember a video from years ago, undoubtedly produced for the purpose, that depicted a young couple driving along in a snazzy convertible, when there is some incident involving a couple of "good ol' boys" in a pick up, who commence following them, driving close, pulling alongside, acting like southern ends of a northbound horse, etc. After miles of going this way and that, the vehicles head down a dirt road, to a dead end.

The good ol boys get out of the pick up, grab some bats and pipes out of the bed and advance on the car. After some rude comments by said boys about the female passenger and taunts and threats, the male driver produces a pistol, orders the good ol boys to drop the bat and pipe. The couple get out of their car. Still covering them with his pistol, the male gets the keys to the truck. The good ol boys are ordered to strip naked, the clothes are then tossed into the cab of the pick, the doors locked and the couple drive away in their car, leaving two naked good ol boys, a locked truck, miles from anywhere. When they get back to the highway, they fling the truck keys into the weeds.

You just never know how these things can end up.
Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.
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JALLEN wrote:
03Lightningrocks wrote: It takes a special kind of meat head to follow a person around with the intentions of "schooling" them on driving etiquette. ;-)
I remember a video from years ago, undoubtedly produced for the purpose, that depicted a young couple driving along in a snazzy convertible, when there is some incident involving a couple of "good ol' boys" in a pick up, who commence following them, driving close, pulling alongside, acting like southern ends of a northbound horse, etc. After miles of going this way and that, the vehicles head down a dirt road, to a dead end.

The good ol boys get out of the pick up, grab some bats and pipes out of the bed and advance on the car. After some rude comments by said boys about the female passenger and taunts and threats, the male driver produces a pistol, orders the good ol boys to drop the bat and pipe. The couple get out of their car. Still covering them with his pistol, the male gets the keys to the truck. The good ol boys are ordered to strip naked, the clothes are then tossed into the cab of the pick, the doors locked and the couple drive away in their car, leaving two naked good ol boys, a locked truck, miles from anywhere. When they get back to the highway, they fling the truck keys into the weeds.

You just never know how these things can end up.

That is funny! I think I will just stick with letting the rude driver go on their way. I figure their mommy or daddy can educate them or maybe Darwinism will take care of it. I am just too darned worn out with morons to chase one down the highway. There was a time when I would get all worked up over rude drivers. Now I just curse them to myself and allow them to keep going.
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What a class act...I guess he'll have plenty of time to think about whether or not his little stunt was worth it.

Why is he not being charged with aggravated assault? The guy who drew in the ammo line was charged with that, and he didn't even discharge his weapon!!
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My recent drivers safety course showed me how to use what's called Self Regulation. Methods to short circuit the build up of rage after someone cuts you off or you are ambushed with a radar gun. :mad5 For example, turn on some soothing music,turn up the AC to cool off.
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Sooooo many terrible decisions were made. Maybe a little bit of jail time will cool this idiot off. He shouldn't have thrown the first punch. Even though he did he should have taken the ensuing beating as lesson instead of pulling a weapon and firing. Its people like this that give all gun owners a bad name.
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Robert*PPS wrote:Why is he not being charged with aggravated assault?
Husband and wife are each charged with "two counts of assault by pointing a gun" according to the report.

Ironically, perhaps the most serious charge against the husband is "Discharging [...] a firearm into occupied property." That really drives home the safety rule to "Be sure of your target and what is behind it."
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apostate wrote:
Robert*PPS wrote:Why is he not being charged with aggravated assault?
Husband and wife are each charged with "two counts of assault by pointing a gun" according to the report.

Ironically, perhaps the most serious charge against the husband is "Discharging [...] a firearm into occupied property." That really drives home the safety rule to "Be sure of your target and what is behind it."
Based on the husbands actions, the charge absolutely should be aggravated assualt. He used a deadly weapon while threatening bodily injury to others. There could also be an attempted murder charge tacked on based on the fact that he fired the weapon at them. Someone somewhere likes this guy and has sympathy for his situation. The charges are ridiculously low for what he did. Punching the kid in the face was the assualt part. The kid and his friend were perfectly legal in their actions to stop the attacker.

I copied this simple definition from a definition web site. You folks decide.

What does assault mean?
In Texas, there are three ways a person can commit the crime of Assault. He can
intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly cause bodily injury to another,
intentionally or knowingly threaten another with imminent bodily injury, or
intentionally or knowingly cause physical contact with another when he knows or should reasonably believe that the other will regard the contact as offensive or provocative.

What is aggravated assault?
In Texas, Aggravated Assault is when a person commits assault and he:
causes serious bodily injury to another, or
uses or exhibits a deadly weapon during the commission of the assault.

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It didn't happen in Texas.
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03Lightningrocks wrote:
apostate wrote:
Robert*PPS wrote:Why is he not being charged with aggravated assault?
Husband and wife are each charged with "two counts of assault by pointing a gun" according to the report.

Ironically, perhaps the most serious charge against the husband is "Discharging [...] a firearm into occupied property." That really drives home the safety rule to "Be sure of your target and what is behind it."
Based on the husbands actions, the charge absolutely should be aggravated assualt. He used a deadly weapon while threatening bodily injury to others. There could also be an attempted murder charge tacked on based on the fact that he fired the weapon at them. Someone somewhere likes this guy and has sympathy for his situation. The charges are ridiculously low for what he did. Punching the kid in the face was the assualt part. The kid and his friend were perfectly legal in their actions to stop the attacker.

:iagree:

The production of the gun alone was aggravated assault. Let alone that he fired off a couple of shots.
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