Qualify for CHL? Do I need it?

[Awslater]

Also, yes that is the reason I don't carry the G22 loaded. It's usually in my maxpedition bag, which does have a dedicated carry pouch but I don't want to accidentally discharge it pulling it out the bag. It's possible something could snag the trigger. Unlikely but possible. Plus I haven't been carrying it like this for very long. Even though I know it's safe, I'd rather be extra safe until I can legally carry a concealed weapon inside of a safe holster. That's why I bought the PPS. I don't carry the PPS at all though and haven't even loaded any of it's magazines yet. It's still brand new and I haven't even shot it yet. So I'm unfamiliar with it. Better safe than sorry!

[Jumping Frog]

There is no "brandishing law" in Texas.

There is a part of the CHL code which makes it illegal to "intentionally fail to conceal" your firearm. UNintentional failure to conceal is not illegal. but if you have to use your gun, then you must necessarily un-conceal it. I'm not going to take the time to quote you chapter and verse, but generally, it goes like this: If you thought you were legally justified in drawing to gun to use it in self-defense, and the other party suddenly discovers urgent business elsewhere, you're good to go—CAVEAT to follow. If you would not have been justified to use the gun, then you weren't justified in drawing it either.

CAVEAT: You can't draw the gun "as a warning." You have to reasonably believe that either you, or a third party whom you are defending, are being or are about to be assaulted by the BG. You can't draw a gun on someone who is giving you lip and tell him to move on or you'll bust a cap in his hindparts. IMPORTANT: If you DO have to draw your gun, even if you don't fire it, as soon as you can call 911 and tell them that someone threatened you and that you had to draw your weapon to protect yourself, no shots were fired, and the attacker left when he saw your gun. First person to make that phone call is the good guy, so you better be first.

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sorry TAM this is incorrect the law only requires you to have been legal at the force level to produce(pull) your weapon and force is what ever it takes to end the encounter, so if the BG is threatening you you may respond in kind by pulling your weapon, you do not have to be at the deadly threat level to pull your weapon

There is a subtlety that you are missing. Threatening deadly force is not the use of deadly force, it is simply "force", as I think you were alluding to.

However 42.035 clearly requires that someone is justified in using deadly force, or you face a Class A misdemeanor for intentional failure to conceal.

So it still comes down to a person must have justification to use deadly force before pulling their gun.

[JP171]

glad you think so JF, try it a time or 2 and see what it really is, mmmm kay

[Jumping Frog]

glad you think so JF, try it a time or 2 and see what it really is, mmmm kay

I don't get your response? "Try it a time or two"? I was pretty clear that one needed to be justified in using deadly force before drawing a gun. How does your response invalidate that?

[dac1842]

If you don't carry a round in the chamber, you may as well carry a rock, it is about as effective.

[infoman]

You would be disqualified from getting a CHL license for 5 years. This begins on the date you were given probation, basically your judgment/sentence date.