Well Here We Go

[Poldark]

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Update (AP): CNN backs up Fox’s report that the guns were legally purchased by Lanza’s mother, and claims that the rifle was found in the trunk of a car parked at the school. Did he only use the two pistols during his attack, or did he have the rifle out at some point before returning it to the car? And if he didn’t have it out, why not? Seems like, if you’re of a mind to commit a mass shooting, you’d want to use the biggest weapon you have.

Update (AP): I’m clicking around on Connecticut’s judicial website of gun regulations to see how many violations this guy is probably guilty of under current law. After a cursory five-minute search, I’ve got at least 10. One: Assuming mom didn’t lend him the two pistols and rifle, he’s guilty of three counts of theft. Two: He’s guilty of three counts of possessing a weapon on school grounds. Three: He may be guilty of three counts of criminal possession of a pistol or revolver. Lanza reportedly had a “checkered past” and had been a “troubled youth for most of his life.” We don’t know how checkered because his juvenile records are sealed, but if he was “convicted as delinquent for the commission of a serious juvenile offense” then that’s two more violations, one for possessing each pistol. Four: Per NBC, concealed-carry permits aren’t granted to anyone in Connecticut under the age of 21. That means two more violations for the 20-year-old Lanza for carrying the two pistols. (You don’t need a permit to carry a rifle.) Oh, and if Wikipedia is accurate, Connecticut police are fully entitled to seize weapons in someone’s possession without a warrant if they have probable cause that the suspect is mentally unstable or likely to commit a crime. Go surf around on the gun-laws site and see what else you find. There’s probably stuff I missed.

[handog]

From the president....."...meaningful action regardless of politics....". In other words release the dogs and push our gun control agenda hard. You can bet this unspeakable tradgedy will be used hard against the second amendment. Buckle up.

armed faculty members would be meaningful. Mentally ill. nonetheless, that was pure evil.

[Poldark]

Interesting post relating to the HIPAA laws

Here’s the other thing…. HIPAA laws.

If this shooter was in the mental health system and did not want his mother to know he had been suicidal or was making threats… because of HIPAA..no one in the agency could tell the parents. Even if he was living with them. Now.. I do not know the HIPAA laws in that state. There is a national HIPAA law and each states have their own. And as I understand it.. the state laws superposed the federal laws on this.

But in my state when I was a caseworker… if my client didn’t want me to communicate anything to a parent. I couldn’t. Period. Unless that client specifically said “I am going to kill my mother on this date at this time with this gun I have right here” We had no duty to inform. And if he said it and changed his mind 5 minutes later saying he wouldn’t do it… I could not, under direction by our agency, inform.
Now.. if he had made vague threats… “I want to kill someone. I have mom and dad.” Under my agency..we still.. under our state law.. could not inform that parent.

If the client just kept repeating vague feelings of wanting to kill someone… and mom and dad called one day to see how he was doing. All I could say was “He’s doing fine.” Under the law. That was it. anything more was a Civil Rights violation with a huge 5 figure fine.

So mom and dad.. depending on the mental health agency this shooter was involved with.. may have only ever been told “He’s doing fine.” when in fact.. he has been spewing repeatedly how he wants to kill people.

This is why the libs want us to look at the gun! If we look at the gun.. we won’t look at all the other things that have influenced this shooter and is influencing the culture. Failed Psychiatry. Failed Therapy. The failed education system. Taking god out of schools. Abortion. Just to name a few.

JellyToast on December 14, 2012 at 7:59 PM

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[Stripes Dude]

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4:52 p.m: Ryan Lanza, 24, brother of gunman Adam Lanza, 20, tells authorities that his younger brother is autistic, or has Asperger syndrome and a “personality disorder.” Neighbors described the younger man to ABC as “odd” and displaying characteristics associated with obsessive-compulsive disorder.

Assuming the reports that these were the suspect's mother's guns are correct..... I think if I had a son who was a "half bubble off level", who had juvenile behavior problems, I would have my guns in the best safe money can buy.

Aspergers is a very scary disorder. Not always easily detectable, and often not diagnosed or misdiagnosed.

I just refuse to believe that there weren't warning signs. A close family member is a LEO in Denver, where there have been two of these in the last 15 years, and his indication is that there are red flags all over the place with these whackos. Unfortunately their families are often in denial, or afraid to raise awareness.

[DJM]

Now says he had no criminal record...
I can easily see this being used against CHL/CCW holders saying we could snap at any moment guns blazing.

[Poldark]

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Update (AP): Mary Katharine e-mails with thoughts:

From earlier, in the second presser, Lt. Vance said two handguns were found w the body and the rifle in the car.

A couple points. If you were of a mind to go into a school w guns concealed somehow–as he might have, considering this started apparently w an altercation in the office instead of going straight to the classroom–you’d likely wanna just carry the two handguns. The rifle would limit mobility and couldn’t be concealed and the handguns would give you plenty of rounds and portability.

Also of interest, if the mom’s rifle was indeed legally purchased, that means it’s NOT an “assault weapon” unless she had it purchased and registered pre-1993. CT bans “assault weapons,” so both that fact and the fact hers likely wasn’t one makes the call for Assault Weapons Ban reinstatement pretty tendentious, right?

Maybe a Ruger Mini 14 ?

[APynckel]

1) stole his mothers guns
2) possessed hand guns under age of 21
3) went onto school property with guns
4) killed someone
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dont think he's really interested in following laws

[OldCannon]

Kathy Jackson (The Cornered Cat) summarized it so well:

"I will not name the murderer. I will not link to his scribblings or post his picture. I will not contribute to the sick cult of celebrity that drives copycats after events like this."

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[mr surveyor]

we need Soul Control in America!

[longhorn_92]

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Get ready people... a total gun ban is what the liberals want. They will install an Assault Weapons Ban that will include a ban on high capacity magazines... and I fear they will NOT grandfather the guns that are already out there. You say it can not happen? Look what they did with Obamacare... they do not care and they will force this issue now.

[Heartland Patriot]

Piers Morgan needs to take himself back to the UK. He's a Euro-windbag...and a mouthpiece, nothing more.

[Poldark]

Piers Morgan needs to take himself back to the UK. He's a Euro-windbag...and a mouthpiece, nothing more.

[JJVP]

1) stole his mothers guns
2) possessed hand guns under age of 21
3) went onto school property with guns
4) killed someone
5) killed someone
6) killed someone
7) killed someone
8) killed someone
9) killed someone
10) killed someone
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20) killed someone
21) killed someone
22) killed someone
23) killed someone
24) killed someone
25) killed someone
26) killed someone
27) killed someone
28) killed someone
29) killed someone

dont think he's really interested in following laws

No 2 is not illegal. Eighteen to twenty year olds cannot buy a handgun from an FFL, but they can posses and own handguns.

[Jumping Frog]

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No 2 is not illegal. Eighteen to twenty year olds cannot buy a handgun from an FFL, but they can posses and own handguns.

It is legal in Texas, but that is completely dependent on state law.

You must be 21 or older to possess a handgun in CT and many other states.

[Dragonfighter]

Piers Morgan needs to take himself back to the UK. He's a Euro-windbag...and a mouthpiece, nothing more.

I'm not sure they would want him back after the cell phone hacking and whatnot.