School property/zone question

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Re: School property/zone question

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XDSConcealer wrote: The CHL class I took the instructor didn't specify professional sports he said any sporting event. All his literature says the same thing. Just wanted to be sure.
Here's the actual statute:
§ 46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE HOLDER.
(a) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, and intentionally fails to conceal the handgun.
(b) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of whether the handgun is concealed, on or about the license holder's person:
(1) on the premises of a business that has a permit or license issued under Chapter 25, 28, 32, 69, or 74, Alcoholic Beverage Code, if the business derives 51 percent or more of its income from the sale or service of alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption, as determined by the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission under Section 104.06, Alcoholic Beverage Code;
(2) on the premises where a high school, collegiate, or professional sporting event or interscholastic event is taking place, unless the license holder is a participant in the event and a handgun is used in the event;
(3) on the premises of a correctional facility;
(4) on the premises of a hospital licensed under Chapter 241, Health and Safety Code, or on the premises of a nursing home licensed under Chapter 242, Health and Safety Code, unless the license holder has written authorization of the hospital or nursing home administration, as appropriate;
(5) in an amusement park; or
(6) on the premises of a church, synagogue, or other established place of religious worship.
(c) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of whether the handgun is concealed, at any meeting of a governmental entity.
(d) A license holder commits an offense if, while intoxicated, the license holder carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of whether the handgun is concealed.
(e) A license holder who is licensed as a security officer under Chapter 1702, Occupations Code, and employed as a security officer commits an offense if, while in the course and scope of the security officer's employment, the security officer violates a provision of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code.
(f) In this section:
(1) "Amusement park" means a permanent indoor or outdoor facility or park where amusement rides are available for use by the public that is located in a county with a population of more than one million, encompasses at least 75 acres in surface area, is enclosed with access only through controlled entries, is open for operation more than 120 days in each calendar year, and has security guards on the premises at all times. The term does not include any public or private driveway, street, sidewalk or walkway, parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area.
(2) "License holder" means a person licensed to carry a handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code.
(3) "Premises" means a building or a portion of a building. The term does not include any public or private driveway, street, sidewalk or walkway, parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area.
(g) An offense under Subsection (a), (b), (c), (d), or (e) is a Class A misdemeanor, unless the offense is committed under Subsection (b)(1) or (b)(3), in which event the offense is a felony of the third degree.
(h) It is a defense to prosecution under Subsection (a) that the actor, at the time of the commission of the offense, displayed the handgun under circumstances in which the actor would have been justified in the use of deadly force under Chapter 9.
(i) Subsections (b)(4), (b)(5), (b)(6), and (c) do not apply if the actor was not given effective notice under Section 30.06.
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Re: School property/zone question

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Thanks, again, Keith!
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Does CHL or MPA protect in a School ZONE (in a vehicle on a road)?

If not, does the School Zone apply 24/7 or merely during the posted times?

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Welcome to the forum.

The federal law has many exceptions, one being that you have a CHL in the state where the school is located. Other exceptions include being on your own property, shooting activities authorized by the school administration (which are not unheard-of), and hunting.

This is all well documented: http://www.gunlaws.com/Gun_Free_School_Zones_Act.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The Texas MPA does not create an exception to the GFSZA.

FWIW, no one has been prosecuted simply for possessing a loaded firearm or driving past a school. All the prosecutions have been gang-thug activities that involved other crimes, such as assault or drug dealing.

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Don't confuse the federal gun free school zone with the speed limited school zone you have to drive through. Under the federal rule it is a matter of proximity to the school, not a crosswalk safety issue. A CHL will exempt you if you are near a school which is located in a state in which your CHL was issued. You can drive through a Texas school parking lot, armed, with a Texas CHL, but don't go to Oklahoma and drive through a school parking lot with your Texas license. You have now violated federal law.
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Thanks for the clarification!
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Concealed is concealed. Nobody should know that you are carrying...
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AdioSS wrote:Concealed is concealed. Nobody should know that you are carrying...
True enough.

That does not mean that we should be ignorant of or casually disregard the law. One of the ironies of life is that a thug who gets caught violating the law gets probation or goes to jail for a while, then returns to his miserable thug existence. A hard-working, tax-paying citizen who owns a home and supports a family can lose his job and reputation and spend thousands of dollars on legal fees.

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