After Aurora, Let's Not Overreact!

[mikeintexas]

Finally, a voice of reason.

http://caffeinatedthoughts.com/2012/07/ ... overreact/

[tomtexan]

That was some pleasant reading for a change. At least someone is using some logic.

[stealthfightrf17]

It always amazes me how fear driven decisions never make sense when thought about logicly. Enjoyed reading some logic in the aftermath

[KurteL10]

Yeah, and strict gun control really worked for Norway. Bring that up and the anti-gun people won't know what to do.

[WildBill]

That was some pleasant reading for a change. At least someone is using some logic.

[WildBill]

It always amazes me how fear driven decisions never make sense when thought about logicly.

[EconDoc]

I have never believed that the politicians who advocate gun control actually cared about crime. Many of them just want to be seen as "doing something". Like a friend of my whose favorite saying was, "Let's go do something even if we do it wrong." We usually did it wrong. Others, more malignant, want gun control in order to gain more power to order ordinary people around in ways that would be dangerous as long as we are armed. Either way, nobody has given me any reason to believe that gun control will solve the problem of violence any better than Prohibition solved the problem of drunkeness or our War on Drugs has eliminated crack cocaine from our inner cities.

[Songbird]

Just saw a good piece on FOX. They reported that states with more lenient gun laws have LOWER crime rates than those with strict gun laws? YA THINK???

[RPB]

Just saw a good piece on FOX. They reported that states with more lenient gun laws have LOWER crime rates than those with strict gun laws? YA THINK???

One way to look at it:
Colorado possibly averted a mass school shooting ...

At the university he had attended, he might have encountered more armed resistance from licensees rather than on the private property of a company with a no guns policy.

Mar 5, 2012 – DENVER, March 5 – Students in Colorado can now legally carry guns into college classrooms
http://concealedcampus.org/2012/03/colo ... pus-carry/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_20104814" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

versus ...

Private Property rights ...of Cinemark Theaters who have a no guns policy

http://www.denvergov.org/Portals/720/do ... ndguns.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
State Senate Bill 03-024

(5) nothing in this part 2 shall be construed to limit, restrict, or prohibit in any manner the existing rights of a
private property owner, private tenant, private employer, or private business entity.
(6) the provisions of this section apply to temporary emergency permits issued pursuant to section 18-12-
209.

http://www.denvergov.org/police/PoliceD ... fault.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The guy drops out of school to visit a "safe" theater, where guns aren't allowed to shoot back at the criminal.

Criminals who want to do mass murders, pick criminal-safe target rich areas (areas likely to be gun free zones) so the guy drops out of school ... picks a movie theater with a no-self-defense allowed policy..
Luby's
Virginia Tech
Fort Hood
etc etc etc ... gun free zones/disarmed victim zones fail.

[RPB]

KVUE News ‏@KVUE

AURORA, Colo. (AP) -- Univ. of Colo. says it received 2 suspicious packages but not clear if linked to suspect.

AP) — Officials at the University of Colorado say they received two suspicious packages Monday at the Denver-area school. Police have said ...

1st package:
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/31 ... etail.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

DENVER -- Authorities were called to the University of Colorado Anschutz medical campus Monday morning after a report of a suspicious package.

Erica Matich said the package was found near the old Army hospital, now known as building 500.

2nd package
The second package was addressed to a person in a separate building and came to the school's central mail facility.


https://www.google.com/search?q=univers ... 21&bih=626" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Rex B]

This was probably covered earlier, but was that theater legally barring CHLs in a way similar to a Texas 30.06 posting?

[RPB]

This was probably covered earlier, but was that theater legally barring CHLs in a way similar to a Texas 30.06 posting?

I've read on here in this forum posts from people whose opinions are generally correct that the signs there are of no effect, and read in their Statutes viewtopic.php?f=94&t=56669&p=695328#p695328" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; where Private Property Owners and Private Businesses gave up no rights if they want to ban them and that company has a no gun policy so ....

[Charles L. Cotton]

Good article, but here a not-so-small correction. Jeanne Assam was not an off-duty police officer; she was a volunteer on the church security team. She had not been a police officer in ten years as of the date of the shooting at her church.

Chas.

[flb_78]

According to Handgunlaw.us ,"no gun" signs in Colorado DO NOT have the force of law behind them.

http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/colorado.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[RPB]

According to Handgunlaw.us ,"no gun" signs in Colorado DO NOT have the force of law behind them.

http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/colorado.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I wonder about No Trespassing signs
No food or drink allowed signs ... probably do not get one arrested ...
No shoes no shirt no service signs ... probably do not get one arrested ...
No pets other than seeing-eye dogs signs ... in a restaurant ... perhaps a health code violation ..

BUT, they can refuse admittance ... refuse to serve you or seat you

<humming>
"Signs" - The Five Man Electrical Band
sign sign can't you see the sign do this don't do that ....

And the sign said,
"Long-haired freaky people
Need not apply."
So I tucked my hair up under my hat
And I went in to ask him why.
He said, "You look like a fine upstandin' young man.
I think you'll do."
So I took off my hat and said, "Imagine that.
Ha, me workin' for you."

Whoa, sign, sign.
Everywhere a sign.
Blockin' out the scenery.
Breakin' my mind.
Do this. Don't do that.
Can't you read the sign?

And the sign said,
"Anybody caught trespassin'
Will be shot on sight."
So I jumped on the fence and I yelled at the house,
"Hey! What gives you the right?!
To put up a fence to keep me out,
But to keep Mother Nature in.
If God was here, he'd tell you to your face,
'Man, you're some kind of sinner.'"

Sign, sign.
Everywhere a sign.
Blockin' out the scenery.
Breakin' my mind.
Do this. Don't do that.
Can't you read the sign?

Now, hey you, Mister, can't you read?
You got to have a shirt and tie to get a seat.
You can't even watch. No, you can't eat,
You ain't supposed to be here.
The sign said, "You've got to have a membership card
To get inside." Uh.

And the sign said, "Everybody welcome.
Come in. Kneel down and pray."
And when the passed around the plate at the end of it all,
I didn't have a penny to pay
So I got me a pen and a paper
And I made up my own little sign.
I said, "Thank you, Lord, for thinkin' 'bout me.
I'm alive and doin' fine."

Whoo! Sign, sign.
Everywhere a sign.
Blockin' out the scenery.
Breakin' my mind.
Do this. Don't do that.
Can't you read the sign?

Sign, sign.
Everywhere a sign.
Sign, sign