*UPDATED 1911 catastrophic failure PIC (gunsmith dfw?)

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Re: *UPDATED 1911 catastrophic failure PIC (gunsmith dfw?)

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You might want to get a real smith like andyc involved. Apparently the mfr cant do it.

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Re: *UPDATED 1911 catastrophic failure PIC (gunsmith dfw?)

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RSJ wrote:UPDATE:
Got the gun back a week or two ago, just took it to the range. Guess what? Stovepipes, jams, etc.

Springfield JUST had this in the factory and replaced the barrel bushing and swapped my full length guide rod for a different recoil setup....

Ammo used today was Lawman .45 230gr and I had three shooters try the weapon to ensure I wasn't "limp-wristing" it.

REALLY upset with Springfield at this point.... :banghead: :grumble
I am not a fan of Lawman 230 gr ammo as it seemed to run very dirty when I last used it.
Did SA mention what ammo they used to test your pistol? Try running with that or pick up some Walmat Whitebox JHP.

Ejection problems can come from a number of sources. Your extractor may need some tuning, or maybe a different recoil spring will help.
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Re: *UPDATED 1911 catastrophic failure PIC (gunsmith dfw?)

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Let me add a little info.
Here is what my work order said they did:
1911-A1 CH/COMPT. REC. SP. PLUG, OLD
1911-A1 CHAM/C0MPT REC. SPRING GUIDE
1911-A1 COMPACT RECOIL SPRING 24#
TESTED

I guess I should be more clear. The gun is loaded with 7rd mags. I chamber and fire the first round. Somewhere between round 2-7 the "new" round is improperly loaded, setting the gun out of battery and a round is not flush in or with the barrel, rather it is up at an angle. I tried 4 different types of mags.
This is the closest example I could recreate safely at home with a live round. The angle is probably a little bit higher, like closer to 45 degrees!
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Sometimes like this also.
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And last but not least... I went to take a peek inside the gun... and used the SA 1911 "tool" to take the bushing off. Look closely at the pic, (why does the recoil assembly not "shoot" out under pressure? How can I get it out?? :???:
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Re: *UPDATED 1911 catastrophic failure PIC (gunsmith dfw?)

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The first picture is an FTF. I had the same problem that was caused by an improperly tuned extractor.
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Re: *UPDATED 1911 catastrophic failure PIC (gunsmith dfw?)

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They fitted a "Reverse" plug there. Normally used for bull barrels and/or Full Length Guide Rods. Not sure why they did that to that gun with bushing.
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Re: *UPDATED 1911 catastrophic failure PIC (gunsmith dfw?)

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SC1903A3 wrote:The first picture is an FTF. I had the same problem that was caused by an improperly tuned extractor.
Thanks! noted, I'd check that if the recoil assembly would somehow come out... :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

edit- got the gun apart. nothing visibly is out of the norm.
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Re: *UPDATED 1911 catastrophic failure PIC (gunsmith dfw?)

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AEA wrote:They fitted a "Reverse" plug there. Normally used for bull barrels and/or Full Length Guide Rods. Not sure why they did that to that gun with bushing.
My smith has done that with a couple of mine, i will ask why...I forgot what he told me.
AndyC wrote:I'm not a real gunsmith - I've just broken a number of 1911s before ;)
Me too, learned the hard way. I have bought some great deals at gun shows only to get home and find they have personal issues I gotta fix.
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Re: *UPDATED 1911 catastrophic failure PIC (gunsmith dfw?)

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rm9792 wrote:
Me too, learned the hard way. I have bought some great deals at gun shows only to get home and find they have personal issues I gotta fix.
:oops: That is this situation exactly :banghead: :grumble
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I will NEVER buy a Springfield again.
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