This isn't the act of a radical terrorist perverting Islam. It's murder by the Iranian government, undoubtedly with the strong approval of so-called Muslim clerics. Peace and understanding my foot.
In a ruling from the Iranian Supreme Court obtained by FoxNews.com, Nadarkhani was sentenced to execution by hanging for breaking Islamic law by conducting Christian worship and baptizing himself and others.
Mr. Cotton, I think they must have looked like trash even to their own people for doing this...now they say its because he raped a woman. So, not only are they going to execute a man for his faith, but they have to cover their disgusting deed with a lie. Evil and spineless, at the same time. And the lack of any strong word against this from our government is of course to be expected. I pray that God will provide a path to safety for this man and his family...
It is sad that they feel the need for a death penalty. However when you travel outside the US you are subject to the laws and court decisions of the host country and justice is not always the first concern. If christianity is illegal in Iran then he should not have been practicing it. I am not a biblical expert by any means but I believe the bible says something about obeying the laws of man.
If the U.S. stands by and allows this, we need to take a long look at ourselves. We just overthrew the Libyan government because the were "murdering civilians". Time to launch some more predators in my opinion.
“While the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but when once they lose their virtue then will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or internal invader.” ― Samuel Adams
suthdj wrote:It is sad that they feel the need for a death penalty. However when you travel outside the US you are subject to the laws and court decisions of the host country and justice is not always the first concern. If christianity is illegal in Iran then he should not have been practicing it. I am not a biblical expert by any means but I believe the bible says something about obeying the laws of man.
The point is a Muslim country is killing someone solely because he is a Christian. So much for the argument that Americans and other Christians are murdered solely by "extremists perverting Islam."
I'm not going to get into a discussion of religion, but the Bible teaches to obey the laws of the land, so long as they do not violate the laws of God.
suthdj wrote:It is sad that they feel the need for a death penalty. However when you travel outside the US you are subject to the laws and court decisions of the host country and justice is not always the first concern. If christianity is illegal in Iran then he should not have been practicing it. I am not a biblical expert by any means but I believe the bible says something about obeying the laws of man.
The point is a Muslim country is killing someone solely because he is a Christian. So much for the argument that Americans and other Christians are murdered solely by "extremists perverting Islam."
I'm not going to get into a discussion of religion, but the Bible teaches to obey the laws of the land, so long as they do not violate the laws of God.
Chas.
I never said it was right. But we have to respect the laws of a host nation just as we expect visitors to respect ours. He went there and did what he did knowing what could happen and is going to pay the ultimate price, his life. I have to think he did this full well knowing what could happen.
Budist do not kill those that convert to another faith.
islam is the #1 murderer of converts to Christianity.
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...in Christianity, power is used to serve others...in Islam...to control, oppress, and make fearful their subjects...when a man uses his power and authority to force his will on others or to silence them because he has a different opinion or religion...he is less of a man...when a man is willing to risk his life to share something good with another...he is more of a man...the pastor will be just fine...those living in the dark world of Islam who kill him in order to silence him...not so much...
Expat wrote:May HE watch over the pastor and give him comfort.
HE is also the ultimate Judge. HIS Justice is supreme and eternal.
Martyrs come from all faiths.
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Very well said gentlemen.
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suthdj wrote:It is sad that they feel the need for a death penalty. However when you travel outside the US you are subject to the laws and court decisions of the host country and justice is not always the first concern. If christianity is illegal in Iran then he should not have been practicing it. I am not a biblical expert by any means but I believe the bible says something about obeying the laws of man.
The really interesting aspect of this issue is that Apostasy IS NOT even covered in Iranian Judicial Law. There is no crime for it. This is outside Iranian Civil/Criminal law and is being pursued as a religious crime that has no code to back it up. Once this became apparent, the Iranian government had to come up with something that they could point to in their own lawbooks to pin on this guy.
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Historically, despots, dictators and oppressive regimes persecute and seek to eradicate those who they believe threaten their power and control. This fact is as old as history itself and serves as the grounds upon which almost every major military conflict in history has occurred. And this violence and persecution almost always takes place under the guise of necessary purification or essential cleansing of the culture. Iran, which became an Islamic Republic in April 1979 once had a vibrant Christian church. But with the rise of Shi’a Islam in Iran in the 1500’s the systematic annihilation of Christianity was already underway.
When Ayatollah Khomeini became the “Supreme Leader” of Iran (December 1979), a new rule of law went into effect, called “velayat-e faqih” – a new paradigm within Shi’a Islam which promotes the idea that its people require guardianship or absolute rule in the form strict supervision by Islamic judges. These jurists or qadis are supposedly guided by shariah law – the precepts of the Qur’an and the life of Mohammed. This interpretation of shariah law by the qadis controls everything from politics, crime and economics to personal matters such as employment, marriage, sexual intercourse, personal hygiene, daily diet, and much more). And this same shariah law calls for the violent annihilation of all those who disagree with the policies and practices of those who impose the “guardianship” of society.
Iranian pastor Youcef Nadarkhani may well become another among the thousands (or more) of Christian martyrs whose blood has been shed by a pagan, violent religion of hatred and oppression (as prescribed by the Qur’an and carried out under the guise of shariah law). But the net result will be the same – the growth of the Christian Church, fueled by the persecution of fear-filled detractors. Given that the Christian church in Iran has grown more since the 1979 Islamic Revolution than in any other time in its 4,000 history speaks volumes to the power of the blood of martyrs.