PO'd Doesn't Begin to Describe It

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Re: PO'd Doesn't Begin to Describe It

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VoiceofReason wrote:
Bullwhip wrote:
VoiceofReason wrote:The right way to handle this is by not getting your blood pressure up, be polite then writing letters to the appropriate people.

I ask again, exactly what do you think yelling at, and insulting the TSA agent will accomplish???
More than going home and writing polite letters. If just writing letters worked we wouldnt' have most of the bad laws we have now. Probably even be rid of TSA/ATF/others by now.
And your solution would be?
Same as hiring someone to drive you... his ride, his rules. Don't like it, hire somebody else. Can't do that with planes, Fed gov took that away from the airlines long ago. Time to bring it back and have choices.

I don't know why people get freaked out thinking airplanes are special. Chance of a plane crash is very low, chance of it being caused by terrorists is even lower. Its more dangerous to drive to the store but we don't demand TSA security there.

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Re: PO'd Doesn't Begin to Describe It

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Bullwhip wrote:I don't know why people get freaked out thinking airplanes are special. Chance of a plane crash is very low, chance of it being caused by terrorists is even lower. Its more dangerous to drive to the store but we don't demand TSA security there.
I'm sure they're working on it.
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We did not demand TSA at the airports either. DOJ did.

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Re: PO'd Doesn't Begin to Describe It

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n5wd wrote:Personally, I choose to drive a lot of the times I could fly, partially because of the TSA hassles and partially because of the hassle of flying, nowadays, period.

That said, imagine how you would feel if your wife and child were on a plane and because the TSA did not investigate a positive alarm, some skell hijacked the flight, or, blew it up.

No one likes TSA and their methods, but no one wants to return to the days when folks could hijack an airliner without much effort.
No offense intended n5wd, but the TSA policies don't do anything to stop hijackings. If I wanted to, I could accomplish it even within the bounds of the policies they currently have. They do NOT make it safer to fly. What they do is pure theater, with no ultimate positive effect.

Others have mentioned they simply don't fly. I will avoid it when I can, but when my employer says I have to be in New York, and I am allowed 1 day travel to get there... well, it's not gonna happen except by air. I don't have the luxury of taking vacation time to drive there, and then drive back after they're done with me. So work dictates, and because I kinda like having a paycheck, I do as they say. Until I'm independently wealthy, I cannot completely eschew flight. As for vacation... well, I'm afraid there are still places I want to see that are not within driving distance in the time I have available to me. And my husband apparently isn't as annoyed by TSA as I am, so he pushes for the flying vacations. I pick my battles, and that's one I'm not willing to pick yet.
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Re: PO'd Doesn't Begin to Describe It

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schufflerbot wrote:...and to those who feel that this is a 'security show' and not effective, is that honestly your opinion??

what would you rather see as a solution?

My opinion is that ALL of the things that TSA do are simply about conditioning the public to do as they are told. They affect virtually zero security problems.
What would I rather see? Follow the Israeli model, they don't have this problem.
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