51% Sign Improperly displayed?
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51% Sign Improperly displayed?
Went to the 1894 OpryHouse in Galveston on Friday to see my daughters dance class perform. Much to my suprise I saw the 51% sign on the front door. Is this possible?They are a 501(c) so I looked up the latest tax return that is available. Here it is...
http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2 ... 1005-9.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Looks like they may be ~1.5% er.
Has anyone else seen anything like this before?
Thanks
http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2 ... 1005-9.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Looks like they may be ~1.5% er.
Has anyone else seen anything like this before?
Thanks
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Re: 51% Sign Improperly displayed?
they can't possibly make 51% of their revenue from alcohol. I did a public inquiry on TABC, it shows "no records found"
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Re: 51% Sign Improperly displayed?
Took me a bunch of tries ,,, finally found it on TABC by address (instead of name) by address listed here ( http://www.thegrand.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; )
License #: MB188672
http://www.tabc.state.tx.us/PublicInqui ... tions.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Trade Name: GRAND 1894 OPERA HOUSE
Owner: 1894 INC.
Location Address:
2020 POSTOFFICE STREET
GALVESTON , TX 775502022
Mailing Address:
2020 POSTOFFICE ST
GALVESTON , TX 775502022
County: GALVESTON Orig. Issue Date: 2/6/1987
Status: Current Exp. Date: 2/5/2013
Wine Percent:
Location Phone No.: 4097705051 Gun Sign: BLUE
Subordinates:
Related To:
License #: MB188672
http://www.tabc.state.tx.us/PublicInqui ... tions.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Trade Name: GRAND 1894 OPERA HOUSE
Owner: 1894 INC.
Location Address:
2020 POSTOFFICE STREET
GALVESTON , TX 775502022
Mailing Address:
2020 POSTOFFICE ST
GALVESTON , TX 775502022
County: GALVESTON Orig. Issue Date: 2/6/1987
Status: Current Exp. Date: 2/5/2013
Wine Percent:
Location Phone No.: 4097705051 Gun Sign: BLUE
Subordinates:
Related To:
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Re: 51% Sign Improperly displayed?
If you missed the thread, the TABC website now tells us if a licensed premises is 51% or not.
Gun Sign: Red = 51%
Gun Sign: Blue = non-51%
Gun Sign: Red = 51%
Gun Sign: Blue = non-51%
License #: MB188672
Trade Name: GRAND 1894 OPERA HOUSE
Owner: 1894 INC.
Location Address: 2020 POSTOFFICE STREET
GALVESTON , TX 775502022
Mailing Address: 2020 POSTOFFICE ST
GALVESTON , TX 775502022
County: GALVESTON Orig. Issue Date: 2/6/1987
Status: Current Exp. Date: 2/5/2013
Wine Percent:
Location Phone No.: 4097705051
Gun Sign: BLUE
Subordinates:
Related To:
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i did it by name, then by address, and neither gave me a result... strange that it 'sometimes' worksRPB wrote:Took me a bunch of tries
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I did a Google search first to get the correct name, then I searched for "Opera House" in Galveston and it gave it to me the first time.Teamless wrote:i did it by name, then by address, and neither gave me a result... strange that it 'sometimes' worksRPB wrote:Took me a bunch of tries
"The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation." Barack Obama, 12/20/2007
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Just got back from the opry house. Confirmed that the sign is RED. 51% Give me a break. Maybe 51% get served Geritol. How & where do they get this sign. TABC site says it should be the blue. Shouldn't they post the 30-06 sign instead? Something stinks here.
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IIRC TABC sends the same packet of signs out to all licensees, which sometimes results in the wrong sign getting posted. You can contact TABC and they will make sure the right sign is posted.
Regardless, the determination by TABC is what matters as far as the law, and that is why it is so useful that they finally started posting it on their website.
Regardless, the determination by TABC is what matters as far as the law, and that is why it is so useful that they finally started posting it on their website.
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Whoa there hoss. They should not post a 30.06 and don't mention anything about a 30.06 sign to them if you contact them at all. I wouldn't. I would let the TABC know that this place has a red 51% sign posted.41Garand wrote:Just got back from the opry house. Confirmed that the sign is RED. 51% Give me a break. Maybe 51% get served Geritol. How & where do they get this sign. TABC site says it should be the blue. Shouldn't they post the 30-06 sign instead? Something stinks here.
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Re: 51% Sign Improperly displayed?
Remember, it's only a defense to prosecution that the 51% is improperly posted you still have to obey it. Call TABC and have them set them straight.
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C-dub I have no intention of educating them on 3006. I'm pretty sure they are already wise to it. I'm just saying it appears that they are anti CHL & the little 51% sign is less obtrusive & may seem more aesthetically pleasing to the managers than posting the big 3006. It does need correction though. Thanks to all.
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Re: 51% Sign Improperly displayed?
Are you sure about this? The defense to prosecution is intended to apply when a chl carries in a 51% location without proper signage.MoJo wrote:Remember, it's only a defense to prosecution that the 51% is improperly posted you still have to obey it. Call TABC and have them set them straight.
If it is not a 51% location, there is no violation, even if posted 51%.
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Re: 51% Sign Improperly displayed?
Also on this, today I received my email alert from Texas3006.com, stating that The 1894 Grand was posted 30.06.....Coincidental? Was it reported to texas3006.com as it was 30.06 or is it really posted 30.06 or did someone post on texas3006.com that it was 30.06 when it really is posted 51% (even wrongly)?
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I was there Friday & Today(Sunday). There is no 3006 today nor was there a 3006 on Friday. Just a red 51% taped to the front door. Thanks.
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Very good. Until one has been on here a while we have no idea how knowledgeable a person is about the laws and the dos and don'ts of a licensee. The majority of my CHL knowledge has come from this forum. And I'm still learning all the time.41Garand wrote:C-dub I have no intention of educating them on 3006. I'm pretty sure they are already wise to it. I'm just saying it appears that they are anti CHL & the little 51% sign is less obtrusive & may seem more aesthetically pleasing to the managers than posting the big 3006. It does need correction though. Thanks to all.
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