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txinvestigator wrote:This sign is a valid legal sign. If you carry where this sign is posted you would be committing a class A misdemeanor.
Except that we're back to the fact that DMA is owned by the City of Dallas, so a 30.06 notice isn't valid.

We are still talking about DMA, aren't we? I lost track about five pages ago...

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lcarreau wrote:So, you believe that when the police arrive because they got a guy with gun call, you can simply make your argument about the meaning of block letters and contrasting colors and all will be well? Do you expect the prosector will let it go? Or do you see yourself doing a Johnny Cochran at you trial, saying "If the sign and statute don't fit, you must aquit."? When you are on trial, what source will you use foir the meaning of block letters?

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It doesn't matter. I won't ever be vistiting their establishment anyways.
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wh not print the below photo, and send it to DPS with a letter, drawing attention to the ankle-high location, lowercase lettering, and the glass background, and ask them if it's conspicuous, block-lettered, and contrasting?
lcarreau wrote:The Dallas Museum is posted.

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#139

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seamusTX wrote:
kauboy wrote:I think a defense to prosecution should be changed to be a "defense to arrest". In other words NOT ILLEGAL!!!
The legal term for that is exception.

I don't know why so many of these things are defenses to prosecution or presumptions. They leave the citizen subject to a lot of hassle and expense.

- Jim
You just answered your own question.

Lawyers write the laws.

Who profits when citizens are caught up in the gray area of the laws?

That's right - lawyers profit.

Don't look for lawyers to make anything easy or logical, it would cost them business. Lawyers exist to create/modify laws and argue them with other lawyers in front of judges (lawyers). Everyone gets paid except the citizens.
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KD5NRH wrote: wh not print the below photo, and send it to DPS with a letter, drawing attention to the ankle-high location, lowercase lettering, and the glass background, and ask them if it's conspicuous, block-lettered, and contrasting?
A couple of years ago, I did just that - sent them a picture referencing the non-compliant language of the Grapevine Mills Mall sign (article 4413, revised statutes, etc...) I asked specifically, does this sign meet the requirements of Section 30.06? Can a CHL holder be prosecuted for carrying there.

After about 6 weeks, I got an email back from DPS legal department, telling me that they did not offer legal advice. (What do they do there, then? :roll: ) And then they cut and pasted Section 30.06. Like I didn't already have that???

So, go ahead, knock yourself out. Just don't expect much for your efforts.
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#141

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This sounds like a Job For Paul Adrian with KDFW Fox 4 News. :grin:

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NO NO!!! We don't want to bring this to the attention of the sheeple public. Way too many bad things would happen from that. And, we don't want the businesses knowing that their post improperly. I like some of them. :razz:
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