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Looting engulfs Cairo, other Egyptian cities
AP – People walk inside the damaged offices of Saudi Arabian Airlines, after they were looted and partially …
By SARAH EL DEEB, Associated Press – 5 mins ago
CAIRO – Cairo residents boarded up homes and set up neighborhood watches armed with guns, clubs and knives Saturday as looting engulfed the capital, despite the deployment of army troops to restore order.
Residents reported gangs of youths, some on motorbikes, roaming the streets, looting supermarkets, shopping malls and shops. Some of the gangs made it to affluent residential areas in the suburbs, breaking into luxury homes and apartments. The crack of gunfire could be heard in the city center as well as outlying districts.
The situation had spiraled far enough out of control by dusk Saturday that the army was deploying reinforcements across the city to restore order and prevent looting, state TV said.
The looting, which has spread despite a 4 p.m. to 8 a.m. curfew, has prompted residents in some neighborhoods, including the upscale Zamalek district in central Cairo, to set up vigilante groups to protect private property. Outside some apartment blocks, guards armed with machine guns had taken up posts.
In the well-heeled Maadi neighborhood in south Cairo, neighborhood mosques called on young men over loudspeakers to come down to the entrances of building and homes to ward off looters.
Naglaa Mahmoud, a 37-year-old Maadi resident, said thugs were breaking cars and threatening to get into homes. She said even the ambulance service in the neighborhood had abandoned their offices and accused the regime of planning the chaos by pulling out all of its police forces.
"All this seems to be prearranged. They are punishing us for asking for this change," she said. "What a shame he (Mubarak) doesn't care for the people or anything. This is a corrupt regime."
The Defense Ministry appealed to young Egyptians to stand up to looters. Ministry spokesman Ismail Othman added that the armed forces will deal with them, and is committed to safeguarding Egypt.
Othman also warned against violating the curfew, saying the military will deal firmly with those caught breaking the curfew.
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Which part?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_Detroit_riot" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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WildBill wrote:Which part?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_Detroit_riot" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Yep, looting and armed citizens defending life and property.
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Beiruty wrote:
WildBill wrote:Which part?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_Detroit_riot" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Yep, looting and armed citizens defending life and property.

Most any part probably

http://www.google.com/search?q=looting+new+orleans" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
and
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... urder.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
and
http://wireupdate.com/wires/9653/san-br ... -the-area/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Not to mention
2010 - April 10 - Springfest Riot, Harrisonburg, Virginia,
2009 - Riot in Downtown Los Angeles after Lakers win the Championship, June 14
2005 Toledo Riot, October 2005, (Toledo, Ohio, United States)
2003 - University of Minnesota campus riots
2002 - Ohio State University post University of Michigan football game riot,
2002 U of Maryland riot
2001 Cincinnati Riots, April 2001, (Cincinnati, Ohio, United States)
2001 - Seattle Mardi Gras Riots, February 2001, (Seattle, Washington, United States)
2001 - Philadelphia Mardi Gras Riots, February 2001, (Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
etc etc etc

So, yep, nearly any part.

Also
Civil unrest in the United States

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_in ... ted_States" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
and
Remember "A bill entitled the National Emergency Centers Establishment Act (HR 645)"?
http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voi ... vil-unrest" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
HR 645 / U.S. PREPARING FOR CIVIL UNREST
March 16th, 2010
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On second thought

Nah, could never happen here


(Didn't some Universities/military bases/Luby's people eating lunch say that?)
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RPB wrote:
Beiruty wrote:
WildBill wrote:Which part?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_Detroit_riot" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Yep, looting and armed citizens defending life and property.

Most any part probably

http://www.google.com/search?q=looting+new+orleans" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
and
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... urder.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
and
http://wireupdate.com/wires/9653/san-br ... -the-area/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Not to mention
2010 - April 10 - Springfest Riot, Harrisonburg, Virginia,
2009 - Riot in Downtown Los Angeles after Lakers win the Championship, June 14
2005 Toledo Riot, October 2005, (Toledo, Ohio, United States)
2003 - University of Minnesota campus riots
2002 - Ohio State University post University of Michigan football game riot,
2002 U of Maryland riot
2001 Cincinnati Riots, April 2001, (Cincinnati, Ohio, United States)
2001 - Seattle Mardi Gras Riots, February 2001, (Seattle, Washington, United States)
2001 - Philadelphia Mardi Gras Riots, February 2001, (Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
etc etc etc

So, yep, nearly any part.

Also
Civil unrest in the United States

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_in ... ted_States" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
and
Remember "A bill entitled the National Emergency Centers Establishment Act (HR 645)"?
http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voi ... vil-unrest" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
HR 645 / U.S. PREPARING FOR CIVIL UNREST
March 16th, 2010
Did we forget the "Rodney King" rioting of 1992 in Los Angeles, when large parts of the city were burning for days and shop keepers defended their stores with AR15s?
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There will be riots in either Pittsburgh, Green Bay, or BOTH in about a week.

IMO, if people want to act like savage animals, they should be treated as such and put down, like savage animals...
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Texas Dan Mosby wrote:There will be riots in either Pittsburgh, Green Bay, or BOTH in about a week.

IMO, if people want to act like savage animals, they should be treated as such and put down, like savage animals...
Could that be restated as: "What's the use of a perfectly good riot gun if you can't use it to put down an opportune riot?" :mrgreen:
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I was in the LA area during the riots. While not in the thick of it (lived in the suburbs) everyone anywhere connected to the greater LA area was on alert. It was frightening because the highway system in SoCal makes it very easy for people to get around quickly and there was considerable worry that groups of thugs would jump on the freeways and try to loot and cause mayhem all over. Essentially all of SoCal shut down and no one went out. The freeways were deserted...it was eerie. Also I believe the only neighborhood that went unscathed was Korea town. They were using Uzi's (or something that looked like them) and SKS's I believe. AR's weren't that prevalent at that time even in the police.

On another note...when people ask why I have guns and give me that snotty "what are you going to overthrow the govt.?" I tell them..."No, I have them for when the big earthquake hits and all my neighbors realize on day 4 without help that I was the only one smart enough to stock food and water". They usually give me a nervous chuckle when they realize that they have not prepared one iota for a break down of civil order or services and what would befall them if they attempted to force my generosity. Never underestimate the danger of stupid people in large groups..... :fire
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Did we forget the "Rodney King" rioting of 1992 in Los Angeles, when large parts of the city were burning for days and shop keepers defended their stores with AR15s?
I too was in the middle of this. so ya I will say it can and did happen.
also the watts riots was left off the list.... that was a few years before my time.
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Texas Dan Mosby wrote:...IMO, if people want to act like savage animals, they should be treated as such and put down, like savage animals...
It all depends on 'whose ox is being gored'; e.g., how did the United States get its beginnings and ultimately come into existence? A very few other examples of past "savages" loose in the United States:

* The Boston Tea Party
* The Labor movement
* The Suffrage movement
* The Temperance Movement
* The Sand Creek and Wounded Knee Massacres
* The Mountain Meadows Massacre
* The WW I Bonus Army
* The Civil Rights movement

The list goes on and on and on. "...the times, they are a' changin'....".

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Don't forget the Katrina aftermath, when local thugs attacked rescue workers.
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KJV wrote:Don't forget the Katrina aftermath, when local thugs attacked rescue workers.
And local cops shot unarmed people (danzinger bridge) and took away the right of law abiding citizens to defend themselves by illegally confiscating their firearms.
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It all depends on 'whose ox is being gored'; e.g., how did the United States get its beginnings and ultimately come into existence?
I seem to recall something about a continental Army being raised and lead by a gentleman named George, if I'm not mistaken.

:mrgreen:

I have no sympathy for opportunistic parasites who use natural disasters or perceived "injustices" as an excuse to cause criminal mayhem and enrich themselves with other peoples' property.
"What's the use of a perfectly good riot gun if you can't use it to put down an opportune riot?"
Amen.
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Yes, and if it does happen here, just like Egypt there is a possibility the President can shut down Internet access.
CBS On-Line wrote:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162- ... 01465.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A controversial bill handing President Obama power over privately owned computer systems during a "national cyberemergency," and prohibiting any review by the court system, will return this year.
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