Road Rage Witnessed
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Re: Road Rage Witnessed
Depending on your phone you might be able to use one touch voice dialing. Mine has a button on the side of it. I tested it using 411 instead of 911 and in three tries it was dead accurate.
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I want to change my response due to this thread:
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I think it would be best to keep the pistol as concealed as possible, so low ready may not cut it unless it is fully out of view of the aggressor.
I was not aware of this McDermott decision until doing a lot more research on PC §9.04. THREATS AS JUSTIFIABLE FORCE. It is unfortunate that we have this contradiction in our statutes.
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I think it would be best to keep the pistol as concealed as possible, so low ready may not cut it unless it is fully out of view of the aggressor.
I was not aware of this McDermott decision until doing a lot more research on PC §9.04. THREATS AS JUSTIFIABLE FORCE. It is unfortunate that we have this contradiction in our statutes.
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I, too, have witnessed these types of confrontations and they are scary to say the least.
Due to the overabundance of agressive driving and "road rage" incidents in DFW, I am equipping my car with a covert security camera. Will record thru the front windscreen at HD and a fairly high frame rate (>30 fps)
Supports a 64GB card and encodes shock sensor info into the datastream in case of an accident. Also very nifty, is the GPS sensor and GoogleMaps overlay. You get a map and indicator of just were you are in the video - all on one screen.
The resolution is about 15 inches to infinity - should be clear enough to capture my car's hood and what's going on out there for police to review later. It records continously from engine on to engine off. I figure I can get about 15-20 hours of high resolution video before it starts to over-write the oldest file. Plenty enough space.
It can also record in-the-cabin audio, if enabled.
Cost for the unit I'm getting is fairly reasonable ~$300 plus S&H. There are some out there for less than $100. Or you can spend $4000. Its wide open.
I agree with some other posters that dialing a phone during an active confrontation is problematic at best; it could be catastrophic, at worst. Your natural instinct will be to focus on the threat - maybe to the point of not even thinking of dialing the phone in the heat of the moment.
I'm going to let the camera record and gather the event automatically, while I escape (if possible). The cops can find the aggressor later on if they're able.
It will also serve as a check on me to ensure that I'm driving the way I should be driving. It can get to be a herd mentality out there on the road sometimes - I need to be sure I'm in check and not causing or eggin' on the event.
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Due to the overabundance of agressive driving and "road rage" incidents in DFW, I am equipping my car with a covert security camera. Will record thru the front windscreen at HD and a fairly high frame rate (>30 fps)
Supports a 64GB card and encodes shock sensor info into the datastream in case of an accident. Also very nifty, is the GPS sensor and GoogleMaps overlay. You get a map and indicator of just were you are in the video - all on one screen.
The resolution is about 15 inches to infinity - should be clear enough to capture my car's hood and what's going on out there for police to review later. It records continously from engine on to engine off. I figure I can get about 15-20 hours of high resolution video before it starts to over-write the oldest file. Plenty enough space.
It can also record in-the-cabin audio, if enabled.
Cost for the unit I'm getting is fairly reasonable ~$300 plus S&H. There are some out there for less than $100. Or you can spend $4000. Its wide open.
I agree with some other posters that dialing a phone during an active confrontation is problematic at best; it could be catastrophic, at worst. Your natural instinct will be to focus on the threat - maybe to the point of not even thinking of dialing the phone in the heat of the moment.
I'm going to let the camera record and gather the event automatically, while I escape (if possible). The cops can find the aggressor later on if they're able.
It will also serve as a check on me to ensure that I'm driving the way I should be driving. It can get to be a herd mentality out there on the road sometimes - I need to be sure I'm in check and not causing or eggin' on the event.
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Got a link for that camera setup?
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Thank you for posting that thread. I just read the entire thing and started a new thread to ask if there have been any changes since the thread was started in 2006.BTin wrote:I want to change my response due to this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1262" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I think it would be best to keep the pistol as concealed as possible, so low ready may not cut it unless it is fully out of view of the aggressor.
I was not aware of this McDermott decision until doing a lot more research on PC §9.04. THREATS AS JUSTIFIABLE FORCE. It is unfortunate that we have this contradiction in our statutes.
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Pawpaw wrote:Got a link for that camera setup?
I am not a lawyer, nor have I played one on TV, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, nor should anything I say be taken as legal advice. If it is important that any information be accurate, do not use me as the only source.
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Sure. Here's the site and setup I'm working on.
http://www.spytechs.com/Car-Cameras/dual-view-cam.htm
It says 16 GB supported, but other sites have this same camera model and document support of up to 64 GB.
They have an embedded example of the video.
LabRat
http://www.spytechs.com/Car-Cameras/dual-view-cam.htm
It says 16 GB supported, but other sites have this same camera model and document support of up to 64 GB.
They have an embedded example of the video.
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That is an interesting setup. I've been thinking about something like this and that one looks like the most complete setup I've seen.
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Re: Road Rage Witnessed
what a deal.
I feel people are to darn sensitive to anothers "honk". I see the horn as a communication device.....as to "here I am, hear me, see me! ".
Not a "HEY! you're in error", or to prove a point.
I get alot of talegateing and attempted bullying, dirty looks, impatientness, flash of brights, and honks in attempting to make me "get out of thier way"...since I drive a small foreign car in "truck country"...all the big Dodges, Titans, F150-350's etc, etc. seem to have to get around me even at speed. No matter my speed, how ineffecient the action is, they just got to get around this car even to stop and turn after a spastic pass....silly.
I just keep a cool head and hope they don't make contact with my vehicle.
I drive hwy199 in Fort Worth daily...and this is what I live with morning and evening.
Hey, it's a public road.....
rant off....
I feel people are to darn sensitive to anothers "honk". I see the horn as a communication device.....as to "here I am, hear me, see me! ".
Not a "HEY! you're in error", or to prove a point.
I get alot of talegateing and attempted bullying, dirty looks, impatientness, flash of brights, and honks in attempting to make me "get out of thier way"...since I drive a small foreign car in "truck country"...all the big Dodges, Titans, F150-350's etc, etc. seem to have to get around me even at speed. No matter my speed, how ineffecient the action is, they just got to get around this car even to stop and turn after a spastic pass....silly.
I just keep a cool head and hope they don't make contact with my vehicle.
I drive hwy199 in Fort Worth daily...and this is what I live with morning and evening.
Hey, it's a public road.....
rant off....
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Most tailgaters won't stick with you past 120 mph. It's fun having them realize that they just don't have the guts to play that game and then there's enough distance between us that I can drop it back down to the speed limit without worrying about them catching up any time soon.
Might not be the wisest choice of action, but it sure is effective. YMMV.
Might not be the wisest choice of action, but it sure is effective. YMMV.
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Also, they normally won't confront you after the cop pulls you over to take you to jail for doing 120 mph.Fangs wrote:Most tailgaters won't stick with you past 120 mph. It's fun having them realize that they just don't have the guts to play that game and then there's enough distance between us that I can drop it back down to the speed limit without worrying about them catching up any time soon.
Might not be the wisest choice of action, but it sure is effective. YMMV.
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I know I have a problem.
"When I was a kid, people who did wrong were punished, restricted, and forbidden. Now, when someone does wrong, all of the rest of us are punished, restricted, and forbidden. The one who did the wrong is counselled and "understood" and fed ice cream." - speedsix
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Maybe you need to go to SA (Speeders Anonymous) "My name is Fangs, and I am a speeder"Fangs wrote:I know I have a problem.
"Hi Fangs!"
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I've sent a lot of them off roading when they'd try to tailgate my higher-performance vehicles with their oversize trucks on winding roads. Apparently, they just stop looking at the speedometer and focus on staying right on my bumper...even when I'm taking a 40MPH curve at >95.Fangs wrote:Most tailgaters won't stick with you past 120 mph. It's fun having them realize that they just don't have the guts to play that game and then there's enough distance between us that I can drop it back down to the speed limit without worrying about them catching up any time soon.
Even my wife's Mazda can handle that with some practice. An F150 with no load in the back doesn't stand a chance.
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Are there Speeders Anonymous groups?! That'd be fun to see what those guys drive... and I bet there'd be LEOs watching the streets nearby. (I've had 3 people in a defensive driving course I was in come back from the lunch break with new tickets, lol).
I had a guy in a huge truck riding my bumper one night while I had a not-so-restrained passenger with me. My passenger thought it was one of our buddies, or so he claimed, after he dual-wielded some inflammatory gestures out the window just as a stoplight we were at turned green. The chase was on, and I eventually lost the guy by taking a curve and then whipping into a side street I was very familiar with and killing my lights. We watched him go flying past none the wiser, only to jump the curb at the oncoming T intersection and end up at the bottom of a ~7ft deep water drainage area.
I had a talk with my passenger, and he's never done that again. The guy in the truck was ok from what I heard, but his truck wasn't. Maybe he learned something? Keep in mind that this was when I was 17, these days I just get away from them, I don't toy with them 'til they're furious.
I had a guy in a huge truck riding my bumper one night while I had a not-so-restrained passenger with me. My passenger thought it was one of our buddies, or so he claimed, after he dual-wielded some inflammatory gestures out the window just as a stoplight we were at turned green. The chase was on, and I eventually lost the guy by taking a curve and then whipping into a side street I was very familiar with and killing my lights. We watched him go flying past none the wiser, only to jump the curb at the oncoming T intersection and end up at the bottom of a ~7ft deep water drainage area.
I had a talk with my passenger, and he's never done that again. The guy in the truck was ok from what I heard, but his truck wasn't. Maybe he learned something? Keep in mind that this was when I was 17, these days I just get away from them, I don't toy with them 'til they're furious.
"When I was a kid, people who did wrong were punished, restricted, and forbidden. Now, when someone does wrong, all of the rest of us are punished, restricted, and forbidden. The one who did the wrong is counselled and "understood" and fed ice cream." - speedsix