Shots fired in Mopac road rage incident
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Shots fired in Mopac road rage incident
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Re: Shots fired in Mopac road rage incident
I'm speechless. Shu has expressed my sentiments well.Shu wrote:WOW.....
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Re: Shots fired in Mopac road rage incident
Yup... This exact scenario came up in my CHL class.
If your in a car.. just get away, it's not too hard to do. Especially on Mopac. I've had to do it many times, mostly when UT is in session.
If your in a car.. just get away, it's not too hard to do. Especially on Mopac. I've had to do it many times, mostly when UT is in session.
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People! PEOPLE! Use your BRAINS! geesh....
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Excaliber wrote:I'm speechless. Shu has expressed my sentiments well.Shu wrote:WOW.....
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Well, you see, officer, the reason that I kept following him for seven or eight miles is so he could antagonize me enough so that I could reach the point that I became in fear for my life and I would therefore be justified in using my firearm to stop the threat that he was presenting to me because I refused to leave while he was antagonizing me and getting me to the point that I became in fear for my life....oh...nevermind...I screwed up....
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baldeagle wrote:Well, you see, officer, the reason that I kept following him for seven or eight miles is so he could antagonize me enough so that I could reach the point that I became in fear for my life and I would therefore be justified in using my firearm to stop the threat that he was presenting to me because I refused to leave while he was antagonizing me and getting me to the point that I became in fear for my life....oh...nevermind...I screwed up....
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Yet another CHLer that gives the rest of us a black eye. What a moron.
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Maybe he slept through that part of the CHL class?Crossfire wrote:People! PEOPLE! Use your BRAINS! geesh....
Bad news: One "good guy" is going to forever lose his ability to carry (and worse) because he couldn't control his temper.
Worse news: The jerk in the truck has probably learned that it's illegal for other people to "get even" for his mean-spirited driving, thus reinforcing his antisocial behavior.
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People like this are allowed to breed and to vote?Matthew Evans, 20, the driver of the truck told offers he was intentionally antagonizing Smith, but thought they were just “messing around” up until the point shots were fired.
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That's why I would say not guilty if I was on the jury.Oldgringo wrote:People like this are allowed to breed and to vote?Matthew Evans, 20, the driver of the truck told offers he was intentionally antagonizing Smith, but thought they were just “messing around” up until the point shots were fired.
I think the shooter handled it wrong but I want bullies to worry that someone might fight back since, based on the behavior I see on the freeways around here, the DA/police have no interest in arresting people for assaultive threats with a motor vehicle.
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Re: Shots fired in Mopac road rage incident
Oy. Since we don't have to demonstrated the ability to exercise good judgement when carrying, I guess these sorts of things are going to happen from time to time.
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Re: Shots fired in Mopac road rage incident
I would be the opposite and I would be the first to vote guilty. The guy had ample opportunity to back away from the person who originally cut him off. He pursued the guy for 7 - 8 miles, THEN shot at him. This was totally driven by rage of the CHL (who is an idiot BTW) and deserves to be prosecuted. And if he is a member of the forum, this doesn't count as a personal attack because he should have paid better attention to our posts and learned something.bayouhazard wrote:That's why I would say not guilty if I was on the jury.Oldgringo wrote:People like this are allowed to breed and to vote?Matthew Evans, 20, the driver of the truck told offers he was intentionally antagonizing Smith, but thought they were just “messing around” up until the point shots were fired.
I think the shooter handled it wrong but I want bullies to worry that someone might fight back since, based on the behavior I see on the freeways around here, the DA/police have no interest in arresting people for assaultive threats with a motor vehicle.
And just because someone is a bully in traffic doesn't give you the right to assault them with a deadly weapon. License plate numbers and a call to the police are the proper method.
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