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" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Concerned US citizens have placed hidden cameras 80 miles north of the border and captured illegals armed with AK-47s, MAC-10s and other weapons, clearing the way for long lines of backpacking drug runners. This should put a crimp in the open borders crowd's arguments.
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Amazing story & video baldeagle! Thanks for sharing. :tiphat:

How the Feds can STILL be in denial about how secure our borders are against such indisputable evidence simply escapes me. Wrong, wrong, wrong! :mad5 :banghead: :mad5 :banghead: :mad5 :banghead:

My hats off to the concerned citizens that put vid cams out there to capture such footage. :tiphat:
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joe817 wrote: How the Feds can STILL be in denial about how secure our borders are against such indisputable evidence simply escapes me. Wrong, wrong, wrong!
The Feds in command at USBP's Central Office in D.C. are very political creatures. They take their direction from their elected political masters (our Chief Executive & his cronies) as to how stringently the USBP Agents exercise their awesome statutory authority.

The Obama crew's dictates are remarkably more restrictive than those imposed by Jimmy Carter's bunch in the late 1970's.

Believe me: the Agents on the ground desperately wish that they could enforce the law without being fired for doing so.
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baldeagle wrote: This should put a crimp in the open borders crowd's arguments.
Why would it? They have no fear of being caught. Why? This is why....

Obama Orders Dance Classes, Movie Nights, and Bingo for Illegal Detainees
June 11, 2010
by Chris Banescu
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The Houston Chronicle reports that the Obama administration has ordered the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) department to implement multiple modifications to their facilities to make life easier, more comfortable, and pleasant for the hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants (approximately 400,000) it detains annually. An internal ICE email highlights 28 different changes the organization will have to make to soften the look of its facilities, present a friendlier environment, offer better entertainment, organize fun activities, and provide illegal immigrant detainees with free access to email and phone services, as well as better dining and training classes.

According to ICE officials all of these changes are part of broader efforts supported by Obama "to make the immigration detention system less penal and more humane." In reality, these changes are akin to "creating an all-inclusive resort for immigration detainees."

Some of the changes the White House is ordering include:
  • § dance classes
    § movie nights
    § art classes
    § cooking classes
    § tutoring and computer training
    § free and unmonitored phone service
    § free email access
    § bingo
    § arts and crafts
    § more variety in dining options
    § self-serve beverage stations
    § fresh vegetable bars
    § fresh carrot sticks
    § hanging plants
    § recreation in natural setting
    § robust aerobic exercise
Also, ICE is expected to eliminate pat-down searches, lockdowns, and light-out for low-risk detainees, as well as provide vastly expanded visitation rights (up to 12 hours per visit) in its facilities.

The changes listed in the ICE e-mail are planned for nine different detention centers owned and operated by Corrections Corporation of America (CCA) across the country. According to the Chronicle, some of the changes "will be implemented within 30 days; others may take up to six months"

Illegal immigrant advocates are thrilled at the required changes. They have been advocating these transformations for years. Lory Rosenberg, policy and advocacy director for Refugee and Migrants' Rights for Amnesty International was delighted with the promised improvements: "Many of these points are very important to changing the system from a penal system, which is inappropriate in an immigration context, to a civil detention system."

However, ICE union leaders are appalled at the cavalier attitude towards the illegal immigrants they oversee and warn of the inherent dangers of such misguided policies. The officials are concerned the mandates will jeopardize the safety of their guards and agents, increase the potential for harm to other detainees, and cost the taxpayers more money in order to transform detention centers into an "all-inclusive resort" for immigration detainees.
"Our biggest concern is that someone is going to get hurt," he said, taking particular issue with plans to relax restrictions on the movement of low-risk detainees and efforts to reduce and eliminate pat-down searches.
ICE leadership also expressed concerns about safety issues inherent in lowering security standards for almost half million detainees, many of which are violent and have gang affiliations. Tre Rebstock, president for Local 3332, the ICE union in Houston explains:
some detainees may be classified as low-risk because they have no serious criminal history but still may be gang members that "haven't been caught doing anything wrong yet."

He also said eliminating lockdowns will make it more difficult to protect detainees from one another.

He said reducing or eliminating pat-down searches could allow contraband into the facilities, including weapons.
These concerns are justified. According to ICE's own report, as of September 9, 2009, 51% of the detained aliens were felons and 11% of the illegals had committed violent crimes. The report confirms that most common crimes committed by criminal aliens are those involving dangerous drugs, traffic offenses, simple assault, and larceny.

None of this matters to the ivory-tower elitist Obama. He condemned the people of Arizona for passing the SB1070 law that mirrors the US federal law on immigration calling it "misguided" and "irresponsible." He has refused to listen to the American people, 73% of whom agree with Arizona and its stance on illegal immigration. He stood beside Mexican president Felipe Calderon as he bashed Arizona and its people. He then applauded Calderon's defamation of America, while Democrats in Congress cheered and shouted their approval. He has refused to enforce our immigration laws and secure our borders. He has continued to push for amnesty while a vast majority of the American people are against it.

President Obama wants millions more voters who support his radical leftist ideals. Pandering to illegal immigrants, blaming America, and continually playing the racist card is how he can get there. This is the Democrat's best chance to overwhelm the American electorate and they're going for it. Damn the American people, full amnesty ahead!

Chris Banescu is an attorney, entrepreneur, and university professor. He regularly blogs at chrisbanescu.com.
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The Annoyed Man wrote: I read stuff like this, and it is difficult to believe that the Obama administration isn't deliberately, and with full knowledge, on a path to remaking the United States into something utterly different from what the founders intended.
They've even said they are going to do away with the jail clothing so the illegals won't feel like criminals. How nice.

Didn't Obama say he would "remake America"? Well, I guess we are seeing ONE campaign promise he is actually trying to keep! :mad5
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The Annoyed Man wrote: ... it is difficult to believe that the Obama administration isn't deliberately, and with full knowledge, on a path to remaking the United States into something utterly different from what the founders intended.
It's quite probable that the only people who are not aware of Obama's obvious intentions are those who who have imbibed terminal amounts of his Kool-Aid.
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baldeagle wrote:This should put a crimp in the open borders crowd's arguments.
Who do you mean by the "open borders crowd"? A long time ago I read a book "Open Borders: The Case against Immigration Controls" by Teresa Hayter, Pluto Press, 2000. She argues that unrestricted migration has the potential to increase prosperity worldwide while controls cause human suffering and cost a vast amount, while doing little to control numbers. This incident seems to illustrate that she is right on the the ineffectiveness of controls. Reducing or abolishing immigration controls is not the same as permitting or facilitating drug running, a distinction that seems to be lost on many people.

One irony is that America is supposed to be the ultimate capitalist country. Capitalism means freedom to compete. This freedom exists for businesses - these can operate across borders freely - but it does not exist for ordinary workers. America of course was built by migrants.

Unfortunately, the link to the news items was not working when I tried it just now.
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baldeagle wrote:This should put a crimp in the open borders crowd's arguments.
Who do you mean by the "open borders crowd"? A long time ago I read a book "Open Borders: The Case against Immigration Controls" by Teresa Hayter, Pluto Press, 2000. She argues that unrestricted migration has the potential to increase prosperity worldwide while controls cause human suffering and cost a vast amount, while doing little to control numbers. This incident seems to illustrate that she is right on the the ineffectiveness of controls. Reducing or abolishing immigration controls is not the same as permitting or facilitating drug running, a distinction that seems to be lost on many people.

One irony is that America is supposed to be the ultimate capitalist country. Capitalism means freedom to compete. This freedom exists for businesses - these can operate across borders freely - but it does not exist for ordinary workers. America of course was built by migrants.

Unfortunately, the link to the news items was not working when I tried it just now.
What I mean by open borders is precisely what you defined it as - unrestricted immigration. What unrestricted immigration does is allow anyone who wants to to enter a country. Restricted immigration, which is what America has always had, allows a country to decide who enters the country and who does not. In the former case a country allows both productive and unproductive people to enter, including criminals, drug addicts, anti-social types and even people who are dedicated to the overthrow of the very country they have entered. In the latter case a country allows only those to enter who can contribute to the country's betterment.

For anyone to think open borders would increase prosperity more than restricted borders, that person would have to be an illogical thinker. Common sense tells you that non-productive people, criminals, drug addicts and similar types of people would not contribute to prosperity no matter where they reside. And people dedicated to the overthrow of a country (such as the Mexican Reconquista movement - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconquista_%28Mexico%29" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) are clearly counterproductive.

Furthermore, to argue that companies can cross borders without restrictions, one has to ignore the many hurdles, both legal and illegal, that a company has to cross in order to establish a commercial presence in a country. America isn't the only country that requires business licenses, compliance with laws and regulations and, in many cases, a certain under the table gratuity to do business there.

People who spew the kind of foolish thinking that you cite demonstrate either a dangerous naivete or a willingness to overlook the facts in order to promote a point of view.
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The Annoyed Man wrote:Obama Orders Dance Classes, Movie Nights, and Bingo for Illegal Detainees
He's just looking after his supporters.
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Kinda makes me wish I were an illegal alien so I could go to this new and improved holding center. I don't get it. :headscratch
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08thunders wrote:Si Se Puede!
Yes we can what?
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baldeagle wrote:

....Common sense tells you that non-productive people, criminals, drug addicts and similar types of people would not contribute to prosperity no matter where they reside....
I am unclear whether American History is still taught in public schools and/or if it's on the TAKS test or not; however, if it is still a subject, we would all recall that Oglethorpe's colony; i.e. Georgia, was founded by the peoples mentioned above.

That was then and this is now, build walls with gun towers and lay mines. Landmines will certainly get their attention after a day or so.
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08thunders wrote:Cambiar
Sad, really....
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