Texas Governor poll

[MoJo]

I'm curious about "Grandma's" views on 2A. That will really help in my decision making process.

Venus Pax,
FWIW, Long ago, on another thread on this forum, someone reported contacting "Grandma", or at least her campaign staff, asking this question. The response reported was typical politician speak -- IOW, throw out a bunch of words that do not really answer the question (which then brings up more questions)
I wish I could remember who posted it & where.
Thanx,
TraCoun

We all must remember "Grandma" has been both a Democrat and a Republican now she's an "Independent?" She nearly broke the City of Austin back in the day she was mayor there. She looks like a political opportunist to me. Why won't she just go play with her grandchildren?

[Popshot]

Is it a case of "lesser of evils", or a "lesser of weevils"?

Don't forget that Richard, uh, excuse me, that's Kinky, wants Willie Nelson to be the energy czar. I wonder if his bio-diesel will smell like weed instead of popcorn?

Since the days after Reconstruction, the real political power in Texas is in the part-time legislature. They control budgets and create legislation, or leave the state to prevent legislation. At least they only come to Austin every 2 years.

[John]

Don't forget that Richard, uh, excuse me, that's Kinky, wants Willie Nelson to be the energy czar. I wonder if his bio-diesel will smell like weed instead of popcorn?

Funny you should mention that. Willie Nelson was busted today in Louisiana. See this link

Seems he had 1 1/2 lbs of pot and some psychedelic mushrooms on his bus.

[Popshot]

That is funny!

[John]

Here is an article by Kinky Friedman on hunting. Offers an interesting perspective. Sounds like he has a disdain for hunters with an underlying dislike for the armed masses.

http://www.texasmonthly.com/mag/issues/ ... oundup.php

Hopefully I got the link correct, but if not, it is from the March 2002 issue of Texas Monthly.

[wrt45]

Here is an article by Kinky Friedman on hunting. Offers an interesting perspective. Sounds like he has a disdain for hunters with an underlying dislike for the armed masses.

http://www.texasmonthly.com/mag/issues/ ... oundup.php

Hopefully I got the link correct, but if not, it is from the March 2002 issue of Texas Monthly.

Most interesting.........

Kinky didn't make my short list, but if he had I'd now be crossing his name out as I type.

[TraCoun]

Kinky didn't make my short list, but if he had I'd now be crossing his name out as I type.

TraCoun

[EricS76]

I do not want pot easier to get for my 10 year old daughter

So you would prefer that it continue to be sold on the streets to anyone with the cash than in stores that check ID?

It's a lot easier for an underage kid to get weed than beer.

Truer words were never spoken.

Back on topic. I'm not voting for Perry. He hasn't really done anything, and of the little he has done, most has been bad.

I'd never vote for Grandma. Her commercials say she's a grandma, not a politician. Only problem is she's been a politician all her life. Who does she think she's fooling?

Democrat Bell may just win if grandma and Kinky have enough votes to take from Perry, but not win themselves. I don't know much about him other than he's a democrat. I won't be voteing for him either.

I'm voting for Kinky. I signed his petition. Yeah, he's not perfect, and he may not even be sane, but he's not a politician, and that's what I belive this state needs. He can't legalize pot. He's not running for King. Kinky talks a big talk, which I think hurts him some with some people. I do believe he would do what he thinks is best for the STATE. Not HIMSELF or his PARTY.

[40FIVER]

I realize that opinions are like ....noses. Everyone's got one. We are also freely able to voice those said opinions.

It seems to me that if you freqent this forum, or any other gun, concealed carry, pro 2A forum and if you take the time to post your opinions on these forums, then you must think that 2A issues and concealed carry issues are pretty important.

All that being said, I find it very worrisome that anyone would even consider Granny, Kinko, or the Demo. True, Perry leaves a whole bunch to be desired, but he is at least friendly to us. Kinko and Demo and Granny could very easily pull enough votes away collectively from Perry that we end up with a real loser in the governor's chair. I don't like Perry that much, but he is a conservative and pro 2A and pro concealed carry. That's more than enough to persuade me.

A lot of the younger guys and girls on this forum don't remember that Clinton was elected the first time because there was a real Texan ( I can't remember his name, but it starts with a "P"), running as an independent that pulled enough votes away from G Bush, Sr. to swing the election in Clinton's favor. And look at what that did to the country. (Please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm weak in political history.) I was one of those people that didn't vote for Clinton, but helped get him elected by voting for the Texan.

Please don't let this type of thing happen in our great state just because you have dislike for Perry. We have so many good things going for us right now as far as 2A and right to carry issues are concerned. Allowing any of the other 3 in office will have a huge negative impact on those issues.

When it comes to choosing politicians, you're goin to have to always choose the lesser of the evils. You can take the most qualified person out there and he/she will eventually be compomised by the political process if he/she stays in office very long.

That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

40FIVER

[KBCraig]

A lot of the younger guys and girls on this forum don't remember that Clinton was elected the first time because there was a real Texan ( I can't remember his name, but it starts with a "P"), running as an independent that pulled enough votes away from G Bush, Sr. to swing the election in Clinton's favor. And look at what that did to the country. (Please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm weak in political history.)

While Perot did get almost 19% of the vote, it's likely that he drew as many Clinton voters as Bush voters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._presi ... on%2C_1992

Perot's almost 19% of the popular vote made him the most successful third-party presidential candidate in terms of popular vote since Theodore Roosevelt in the 1912 election. Some conservative analysts believe that Perot acted as a spoiler in the election, primarily drawing votes away from Bush and allowing Clinton to win many states with less than a majority of votes. However, exit polling indicated that Perot voters would have split their votes evenly among Clinton and Bush had Perot not been in the race, and an analysis by FairVote - Center for Voting and Democracy suggested that, while Bush would have won more electoral votes with Perot out of the race, he would not have gained enough to reverse Clinton's victory.[1] Survey research data, while not as reliable as exit poll data, also support the notion that Clinton would have won with or without Perot in the race. The data can even be interpreted to suggest that Perot hurt Clinton more than he hurt Bush. In fact, Bush's percentage of the popular vote was very close to his approval rating at the time of his defeat (the high 30 percent range). Part of the confusion regarding the 1992 election stems from a sleight of hand in comparison to the 1988 election. In 1988, many of the people who voted for Perot in 1992 may well have voted for Bush; this does not mean, however, that these same voters would have voted for Bush in 1992 had Perot not been in the race. In short, a careful analysis of the 1992 vote suggests that Perot's effect was neutral regarding the ultimate outcome--that Clinton would have won anyway, and perhaps would have done better, as Bush was highly unpopular at the time.

Kevin

[40FIVER]

Thanks for the correction, KB.

My other opinions still stand until corrected by someone with more wisdom than me. (Just about everyone, I'm thinkin.)

40FIVER

[Diode]

I don't like Perry that much, but he is a conservative and pro 2A and pro concealed carry. That's more than enough to persuade me.

Good Point.

[longtooth]

I don't like Perry that much, but he is a conservative and pro 2A and pro concealed carry. That's more than enough to persuade me.

Good Point.

Yes gentlemen, there may be some things we don't like about how he has governed. He is still the best choice we have it seems. Also it is easy for everyone of us to see what is wrong. I don't know anyone that can fix it. I sure couldn't if I was there. It is easy for us to see "what needs to be done". I dont know anyone that can GET IT DONE any better & I am sure that I could not if I were in the mansion. If there was an evident candidate that could, we would elect them.

[KD5NRH]

So, which one of you is going to run next time?

I'd volunteer, but I'm hoping to be back in college for the next four years, trying to make up for not being in class nearly enough ten years ago. I might even try for a PoliSci minor just in case.

[EricS76]

I know this won't garner favorable opinion here, but there's no way i'm going to close my eyes to everything else and simply "vote for the guy who's the most 2A friendly". Guns are a part of my life, but not my entire life. There are so many other things to be considered to me than one single topic. Yes, 2A and concealed carry are hight on my list, but not the ONLY thing I care about. I don't know if anyone can "get it done" or not either, but Perry seems to not even be trying.

It's a given that Bell probably is anti, and I'm sure grandma is trying to hold middle ground, maybe Kinky is too.

I've got to look at the whole picture. No, I'm not voteing for anyone who's outright anti, I probably wouldn't agree with their other positions anyway. But simply voteing for a admittably sub-par person because they're "friendly to us" isn't going to happen either. Specially when some other candidates haven't come out anti at all.
This is from Kinky's website. Doesn't say a whole lot, but at least it's in the right direction.

http://www.kinkyfriedman.com/issues/faq.html

Q: What's Kinky's feeling on gun control?
A: The second amendment is every bit as important as the others. Texans have the right to keep and bear arms, as well as to hunt.