nitrogen wrote:David Frum puts it into perspective.
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Since health-care has passed, when are we holding the funeral for it?
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cbr600 wrote:My condolences to the medical professionals on the forum.
Good luck getting a doctor that speaks english.
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Brilliant, Sir!G.A. Heath wrote:Since health-care has passed, when are we holding the funeral for it?
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Yes it certainly does. Thanks for sharing the link nitrogen.nitrogen wrote:David Frum puts it into perspective.
I’ve been on a soapbox for months now about the harm that our overheated talk is doing to us. Yes it mobilizes supporters – but by mobilizing them with hysterical accusations and pseudo-information, overheated talk has made it impossible for representatives to represent and elected leaders to lead. The real leaders are on TV and radio, and they have very different imperatives from people in government. Talk radio thrives on confrontation and recrimination. When Rush Limbaugh said that he wanted President Obama to fail, he was intelligently explaining his own interests. What he omitted to say – but what is equally true – is that he also wants Republicans to fail. If Republicans succeed – if they govern successfully in office and negotiate attractive compromises out of office – Rush’s listeners get less angry. And if they are less angry, they listen to the radio less, and hear fewer ads for Sleepnumber beds.
So today’s defeat for free-market economics and Republican values is a huge win for the conservative entertainment industry. Their listeners and viewers will now be even more enraged, even more frustrated, even more disappointed in everybody except the responsibility-free talkers on television and radio. For them, it’s mission accomplished. For the cause they purport to represent, it’s Waterloo all right: ours.
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I know at least 3 states are ready challenge it's constitutional legality in the supreme court (hopefully soon). I'm sure many states's AGs will follow suit (pun intended) shortly after.boomerang wrote:Still can't find where this is allowed in the Constitution.
Pelosi and her anti-constitutionalists are bigger threats to America than Bin Laden ever was.
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There's 38 states that are prepared to do so under 10th Amendment arguments from what I read somewhere this morning.CaptWoodrow10 wrote:I know at least 3 states are ready challenge it's constitutional legality in the supreme court (hopefully soon). I'm sure many states's AGs will follow suit (pun intended) shortly after.boomerang wrote:Still can't find where this is allowed in the Constitution.
Pelosi and her anti-constitutionalists are bigger threats to America than Bin Laden ever was.
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Been there, done that.javechet wrote:No. It kind of reminds me of cleaning on ship; if everyone's doing something, nothing gets done. (It makes more sense if you've been on a Navy ship)texas1234 wrote:Goodbye America! Hello Europe!!!
Lets see through healthcare they can control just about everything.
And since we are 85 trillion in debt already my guess taxes are going to go sky high.
Texans do we really want to be a part of this? I dont.
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I e-mailed Gov Perry and my state senator and state rep Sunday and asked for them to follow the example of those other states. We should have been first to challenge it.
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Okay...someone tell me if I'm off-base on this one:
Didn't John Murtha pass away in Feb. of this year? If so, why does his name appear in the "AYES" section of the vote results at the following website?
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll887.xml
Is there more than one Murtha in Congress, specifically a Congressman?
Didn't John Murtha pass away in Feb. of this year? If so, why does his name appear in the "AYES" section of the vote results at the following website?
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll887.xml
Is there more than one Murtha in Congress, specifically a Congressman?
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Good question. They actually did not need Murtha's absentee vote, as he was number 219 and the Dems only needed 216 ayes. Insofar as a dead man voting goes, that's the kind of change you can believe in now, even if you can't believe it.
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I agree that they didn't need his vote, but I would like to know if a Rep. passes away and his spot isn't filled yet, is there a proxy vote cast on his behalf? If it turns out that the answer is no, why was a vote counted? This makes me think there are more shenanigans going on in this vote than meets the eye!casingpoint wrote:Good question. They actually did not need Murtha's absentee vote, as he was number 219 and the Dems only needed 216 ayes. Insofar as a dead man voting goes, that's the kind of change you can believe in now, even if you can't believe it.
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Oh I'm sure there are many more odd little Chicago style games done to get this passed than we will ever know about. So much for open transparent government.
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It's the least transparent administration I can remember.
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