Uh Oh, looks like this could lead to a Smoking ban

[suthdj]

So you don't like smoking and your neighbor that smokes feels threatened by you owning firearms now your both up the creek. Get the point?

totally different. Apples and oranges.

No not from an "anti-something" its not, but you missed the point. If we all jump on somebody's right to do something because we feel it infringes on our right, So when we all lose our rights who is to blame? The point is stand together for their rights and they will stand for yours. If everybody wants to jump on the anti-smoking band wagon don't complain when they jump on the anti-gun band wagon or the anti-SUV band wagon etc... remember the phrase "United we stand"!

[pbwalker]

I smoke and am all for the smoking bans...No one should be forced to inhale 2nd hand smoke. I also enjoy eating a meal without smelling it.

But I am against one in bars or cigar clubs...

[Beiruty]

Like many Lebanese, Many in my family smoked tobacco like this:

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I smoked it occasionally here in US, but I was never hooked. Sometimes after a dinner, I am be tempted to smoke it again if I had the opportunity.

[KD5NRH]

No problem with smoking bans. I think it is one of those things where the question of "when your rights enfrienge on my rights" comes into play.

What about when your perceived "rights" infringe on the rights of property owners?

I have a right not to have smoke blown in my face.

Absolutely: on property you control.

it wasn't that many yrs ago that I had a chain smoker working within a few feet of me.

And how long ago did that kill you?

[marksiwel]

And how long ago did that kill you?

My grandmother lived with a Chain smoker he died 20 years ago, 10 years after his death they found the first spot on her lung (she wasnt a smoker)

SO its not "how long ago" it "WHEN WILL"

[jmra]

No problem with smoking bans. I think it is one of those things where the question of "when your rights enfrienge on my rights" comes into play.

What about when your perceived "rights" infringe on the rights of property owners?

I have a right not to have smoke blown in my face.

Absolutely: on property you control.

it wasn't that many yrs ago that I had a chain smoker working within a few feet of me.

And how long ago did that kill you?

I have no problem with someone smoking on their private property. I do have a right not to have smoke blown in my face in a public place. And like someone else said it's the long term effects I'm worried about. Btw, the chain smoker wasn't stopped by our employer, he was stopped by the chain smoking. I hope you decide to stop before you suffer the same fate.

[thankGod]

Like many Lebanese, Many in my family smoked tobacco like this:

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I smoked it occasionally here in US, but I was never hooked. Sometimes after a dinner, I am be tempted to smoke it again if I had the opportunity.

Beiruty, that is toooooooo much smoke! It'll kill ya son!

[Abraham]

There should also be a fatty foods ban too i.e., no cheese burgers, ice cream, (sorbet is O.K.) certain sausages, and so on.

The sight of the massively corpulent, jiggling tubs of human protoplasm lurching about here, there and everywhere makes me lose my appetite. If they didn't eat so much fatty food they'd shape up and meet with my approval, sniff...

Let's ban alcohol - ah, wait, that's been tried...

Well, anyway, let there be bans of all kinds - you know, those kinds that we can get on the band wagon with and really enjoy with a rousing smug satisfaction.

I hope to get on the "Lets ban what we don't approve of ban wagon committee" as I've LOTS of other items I wish to see banned - don't you?

[chabouk]

No one should be forced to inhale 2nd hand smoke.

I've never been taken at gunpoint to a restaurant and forced to sit there while others smoked around me.

[KD5NRH]

I have no problem with someone smoking on their private property. I do have a right not to have smoke blown in my face in a public place.

You have a right to not associate with minorities. Try demanding that someone else enforce that right for you by kicking them out of a public place and see how far it goes.

[pbwalker]

No one should be forced to inhale 2nd hand smoke.

I've never been taken at gunpoint to a restaurant and forced to sit there while others smoked around me.

So you are saying that if I don't want to smell your second hand smoke at a new fancy restaurant, I can't go?

Like I said, I smoke. But no one else should have to smell my smoke or have to choose where they can and cannot go if they don't want to smell it.

[ChuckW]

So you don't like smoking and your neighbor that smokes feels threatened by you owning firearms now your both up the creek. Get the point?

I will also quote this already frequently quoted phrase - in agreement. For the record, I don't smoke and think that everyone who does should seriously think about quitting. That said I think that particularly gun owners would be very cautious about advocating any outright ban on smoking. Fine if business owners governmental entities etc. want to ban smoking in their establishments. But any outright smoking ban, in the minds of many, would be viewed as open invitation to banning all kinds of other things - like for example concealed carry.

[PUCKER]

I HATE the smell of cigarettes, to me it is one of THE most VILE smells out there! Seriously...I HATE them....however, I LOVE cigars and pipes, I enjoy the aroma. I also enjoy smoking cigars and I can tell you first-hand of "cigar/pipe discrimination" at SMOKING establishments. And I'm talking about "cut the smoke haze with a KNIFE type of establishments" - it's definitely NONSENSE, but hey, that's the property owner's rights.

I'm against smoking bans - it should be up to the owner of said property, that's my take. There are some places that have gone non-smoking on their own, my wife LIKES those places (she hates cigarettes, cigars, pipes, etc.).

Southlake, the city next to us (Grapevine), instituted a smoking ban a few years ago. Within 6 months two restaurants went out of business, they had a heavy smoking crowd that "migrated" over to smoke-friendly Grapevine. It was literally like a light-switch, the day of the ban all of the smoking-allowed places in Grapevine became SMOKE city, the amount of smoke increased DRAMATICALLY! It was crazy, hey, more revenue for us!

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I despise the smell of cigarettes.
It seems that most of the outrage is directed at cigarette smokers (although most cigar / pipe guys will tell you that they are not allowed in most places that allow cigarettes).

[Marty Graw]

So you don't like smoking and your neighbor that smokes feels threatened by you owning firearms now your both up the creek. Get the point?

He should be allowed to smoke as long as he doesn't make me breathe his smoke. I should be allowed to shoot as long as I don't make him eat my lead. To get there we have to expand our right to shoot on our own property. None of these silly 10 acre limits. Unless we put in a 10 acre requirement to smoke on your own property. Get the point?

[KD5NRH]

So you are saying that if I don't want to smell your second hand smoke at a new fancy restaurant, I can't go?

If you don't want to hear Willie Nelson, then you can't go to the honky tonk either.

Maybe the Orthodox Jews should raise a stink about discrimination because there's nothing Kosher on the menu at many of the Cajun restaurants, effectively denying them their right to eat there.