Crossbreed Supertuck Issues

[hbkkicker]

Ok, so I got my Crossbreed Supertuck in today. Has anyone else still had problems with printing even with their supertuck? I have pants that are a couple sizes to big and a baggy shirt but I am still printing. I have moved it all around and have changed the location of the clips. I have a Smith and Wesson .40 caliber sig series and I am not a very large guy at 5'6" and 175 pounds so I dont know if it is just too big of a gun for someone my size but does anyone have any suggestions on where I should put my clips or anything else that might help with the printing?
Thanks,

[A-R]

printing while tucked or untucked?

[USA1]

How do you feel about Hawaiian Shirts ?

But seriously, many new CHLers feel like everyone can tell that they have a gun on them.
The general consensus is that most "average" people are not paying much attention
and that it does not compute that any bulges they do see could be a gun.

I don't know if this helps , but you will grow more confident with time and experimenting.

[A-R]

Check this link to see my Glock 23 hidden with no printing in SuperTuck while carrying untucked (of course, I'm a much bigger guy than you - 6-2, 275 - but that shouldn't make a huge difference). http://www.texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=29059" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

BUT ... I do have trouble with printing if I carry my G23 tucked. For days when I need to tuck my shirt, I go with my Walther PPS and SuperTuck. The G23 is just a bit too thick, and in fact it "prints" more through my pants than my shirt - looks like some giant lump is growing out of my hip bone. I can get away with tucking the G23 if I wear a large enough shirt and "blouse it" over my belt some, but I never feel completely comfortable with it

[dicion]

Printing isn't illegal

Noone thinks 'gun', people will think cell phone or something first

I have a handle of a 1911 'print' every time I bend over (which is a lot), I have yet to be called on it.

Someone even brought their phone one day with a 'metal detector' app on it.

I used it on my 3 and 9 o clock to see if it detected... it did for both... dude whos phone it was was like 'phone, huh?'
I was like "Sure..." even though I had me phone out and visible in my other hand...

People are oblivious. Don't worry.

[redoregon]

Do *you* say you're printing, or do other people? When you first carry, you think it's obvious from 20 feet away, but it usually isn't. Since I started carrying, I try to spot anyone else who is, and haven't yet been successful... even with people I *know* are armed. Check with good friends... ask them if they see anything odd about you (in a non-public situation) and you'll quickly find out that it's not as bad as you might think. And incidentally... I have the same holster.

[hbkkicker]

The only person who says that they notice is my wife. Everytime I put on my gun, she tells me she can see the handle and it is really obvious, but no one else seems to notice. I guess I just need to keep playing with the cant and raising and lowering the clips until I find a good spot for it. I am printing with an untucked oversized t-shirt...

[lawrnk]

How do you feel about Hawaiian Shirts ?

But seriously, many new CHLers feel like everyone can tell that they have a gun on them.
The general consensus is that most "average" people are not paying much attention
and that it does not compute that any bulges they do see could be a gun.

I don't know if this helps , but you will grow more confident with time and experimenting.

My brother, a cop, had a p3at in his pocket today. I know he carries, and frankly I never noticed until he pointedly said, am I printing? Yeah, I could make out the gun in his jeans, only because I was looking, and knew what gun he pocket carries. Otherwise, no one else noticed, or rather, probably just thought he carried his wallet in his front pocket. Granted, you are carrying a much larger gun than most CCW I hear of.

[tauruspt145]

It seems like your having the same problem i did when i first got mine. Most of my problem was i was just paranoid, but i did find out that mine is less likely to print when the left side clip is in the highest hole (looking from the back)and the right side clip is at the second hole from the top. Im 5' 8" 180 So we are about the same size.

[jordanusmc]

I have the crossbreed minituck. I found that if I move my belt clips so that my holster rides as low inside my pants as possible. I am more comfortable with having lower in order prvent me from printing as musch. I will noted thought that if its to low it will make some weapons almost imposible to draw.

[sgerry]

"Printing isn't illegal "

Not to be inflammitory, but i just took my CHL class and "printing" can and will get your license revoked if seenby an LEO.

Can anyone please clarify the above quote?

[dicion]

"Printing isn't illegal "

Not to be inflammitory, but i just took my CHL class and "printing" can and will get your license revoked if seenby an LEO.

Can anyone please clarify the above quote?

That is flat out Incorrect. Whoever told you that was uninformed, at least.

To the Statutes!

Sec. 46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE HOLDER. (a) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, and intentionally fails to conceal the handgun.

Emphisis added

Intentional failure to conceal means just that. You intentionally, made a choice, to not conceal the handgun. Eg, you carried openly, with no effort placed to hide the firearm.
A breeze opening your shirt, stretching to grab something, bending over, etc that accidentally Completely Reveals the handgun, in it's entirety, is not 'intentional failure to conceal', so why would Printing be?
It's obvious that you tried to hide it. In a pocket, under a shirt, etc. You intentionally TRIED to conceal, which is the complete opposite of intentional failure to conceal.

Printing isn't intentionally failing to conceal. Unless you're wearing skin tight spandex, and can virtually read the serial number through your clothing.... You're good to go.

This has been discussed at great length here. Unless a common person can tell unequivocally that it is a gun in your pocket, it's legal.
After all, tons of people carry pagers, phones, leathermans, medical devices, keys, etc in their pockets and on their belts daily. You have no way of being sure what any particular bulge in someone's shirt or pocket is.

When I'm wearing what I normally wear, my leatherman pouch keys in my pocket print more than my handgun, guaranteed.

[Keith B]

"Printing isn't illegal "

Not to be inflammitory, but i just took my CHL class and "printing" can and will get your license revoked if seenby an LEO.

Can anyone please clarify the above quote?

First off, welcome to the forum.

And, dicion is correct, printing in itself is not illegal. However, if you are wearing a t-shirt that is tight enough to show the S&W emblem on the grip through your shirt, THEN it is a violation. It must be discernible as a gun to the average person before you have intentionally not concealed. Now, can they arrest you if they see your gun, even if it is accidentally exposed? Yes, as it has happened, however that is not illegal and any cases that have happened have been dismissed.

[JAguirre]

Ok, so I got my Crossbreed Supertuck in today. Has anyone else still had problems with printing even with their supertuck? I have pants that are a couple sizes to big and a baggy shirt but I am still printing. I have moved it all around and have changed the location of the clips. I have a Smith and Wesson .40 caliber sig series and I am not a very large guy at 5'6" and 175 pounds so I dont know if it is just too big of a gun for someone my size but does anyone have any suggestions on where I should put my clips or anything else that might help with the printing?
Thanks,

hbkkicker, check this thread http://www.texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=33959" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, I was having similar issues, and I modified the ST [abbreviated profanity deleted] work better for me. Im 5'7 about 175-180, so hopefully this helps you.

[rthillusa]

You might try adjusting it for a maximum cant.

I had a similar problem with my comp-tech which is very similar in construction to the super tuck in that the cant is adjustable. It came out of the box with a middle of the road cant. I wore it that way but the pistol butt stuck out a tad and held my shirt away from my back. The effect was even more pronounced if I bent over at all. No one noticed, not even my wife. But I felt it and it made me self conscious.

I tried adjusting for no cant. The pistol rode very deep, against my belt, was hard to grab hold of it without grabbing some shirt too, and although the tent-pole effect was less, it was still there.

So, I went the other way, with maximum cant and it worked great. It holds the butt flat against my back. No tent-pole effect from the pistol butt being angled out from my back. My shirt hangs straight and even when I bend over, there is no bulge other than the thickness of the pistol, which really is unnoticeable.