.308 rifle guys....what ammo do you shoot?
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.308 rifle guys....what ammo do you shoot?
I finally got out to the range with my Rem700 PSS the other day. Shot some pretty tight groups as long as I was sticking with the basics and shot steady. First time out with a .308 and I shot some sub 1" groups. I didn't think that was too bad. I was shooting Win .308 168gr Ballistic Silvertip. It looked like a pretty good round upon physical inspection. Question is, do I need the spend the money on that kind of round for target plinking?
Since I abide by the policy of junk in / junk out, I will only buy quality ammo for the PSS. What other ammunition is worth me taking a look at for target plinking? Currently I only shoot to 100yrd, but hope to extend it past 500yds eventually, long term I want to be shooting 1000yds. Please help me out here!!
Unfortunately at the current time loading my own rounds/reloading is not an option. I live in an apartment with my wife and twin 16 month old daughters and have no room for the equipment.
Since I abide by the policy of junk in / junk out, I will only buy quality ammo for the PSS. What other ammunition is worth me taking a look at for target plinking? Currently I only shoot to 100yrd, but hope to extend it past 500yds eventually, long term I want to be shooting 1000yds. Please help me out here!!
Unfortunately at the current time loading my own rounds/reloading is not an option. I live in an apartment with my wife and twin 16 month old daughters and have no room for the equipment.
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Re: .308 rifle guys....what ammo do you shoot?
Ahh but that is where you are wrong grasshopper.cyphur wrote: Unfortunately at the current time loading my own rounds/reloading is not an option. I live in an apartment with my wife and twin 16 month old daughters and have no room for the equipment.
I've several set up from several that live in an apartment with little to no room. A single stage press can be mounted to a 2x4 and the board c-clamped to one of those workmate type fold up work benches. When not in use the bench will fold up nearly flatand could easily store under the bed or in a closet. The press can be stored in say a large shoe box, again under a bed or closet. Since your doing rifle ammo for a bolt action you probably won't be loading in bulk and you'll be doing each step in the loading process seprately. A powder measure can be mounted to the same board that is used for the press.
Good single stage presses and some of the kits can be had fairly inexpensively. Kits are good beacause they come with most everything you need to get started.
Anyway, it's just a suggestion. I don't shoot .308 so I'm not familiar with the factory loads.
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I've gotten excellent results with Winchester Supreme Ballistic Silvertips in a 7mm-08 (.308 necked down). For mass produced ammo, its pretty hard to beat.
Of course, as all riflemen know....each rifle will have a "pet" load or two, so you might want to experiment with different weights and loads. Any factory ammo that results in sub "minute of angle" groups in your rifle is worth staying with (if your prime concern is merely hunting accuracy).
A "good" rifle in .308 is probably capable of 100 yd. 5 shot groups of less than .500 center to center (and some much better).
My daughters 7mm-08 shoots better than I can hold it (I'm getting kinda old) . Of course, it is dual pillared, lug and action are glass bedded, barrel free floating, fire lapped, and a decent trigger job.
What other factory rounds have you guys had good success with (.308)?
Of course, as all riflemen know....each rifle will have a "pet" load or two, so you might want to experiment with different weights and loads. Any factory ammo that results in sub "minute of angle" groups in your rifle is worth staying with (if your prime concern is merely hunting accuracy).
A "good" rifle in .308 is probably capable of 100 yd. 5 shot groups of less than .500 center to center (and some much better).
My daughters 7mm-08 shoots better than I can hold it (I'm getting kinda old) . Of course, it is dual pillared, lug and action are glass bedded, barrel free floating, fire lapped, and a decent trigger job.
What other factory rounds have you guys had good success with (.308)?
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my favorite rifle ammo is black hills. it's quality stuff, and really consistent. black hills makes sniper ammo for the military. you can get what is essentially black hills reloads for half of what some of the other brands cost. the brass has only been used once, but it's all in good shape and shoots very well.
i've also had good results with the new wolf premium ammo stuff. i'm not a reloader, and probably won't ever be. i don't have the patience or the time. federal premium works good too.
in the end, your rifle will probably decide for you. i have an ar15 that loves the cheap wolf crap better than some of the premium stuff.
i've also had good results with the new wolf premium ammo stuff. i'm not a reloader, and probably won't ever be. i don't have the patience or the time. federal premium works good too.
in the end, your rifle will probably decide for you. i have an ar15 that loves the cheap wolf crap better than some of the premium stuff.
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My .308's are all military-pattern, autoloaders so this may be of little or no use to you. M1A, FAL and an AR10. My "plinking" ammo is Lake City overruns or other surplus. I usually buy enough in bulk that I keep costs at about $0.25/round.
The problem however, is that most bolt guns like your Remington may not be safe to fire this sort of ammo. A friend tried some South African in his Reminton 700 Varminter but found he had a very hard time extracting fired cases. It also couldn't print anything better than about a 2-inch group in his rifle. That same rifle printed a .224-inch earlier in the day with 168-grain Federal Match ammo that functioned flawlessly.
The problem however, is that most bolt guns like your Remington may not be safe to fire this sort of ammo. A friend tried some South African in his Reminton 700 Varminter but found he had a very hard time extracting fired cases. It also couldn't print anything better than about a 2-inch group in his rifle. That same rifle printed a .224-inch earlier in the day with 168-grain Federal Match ammo that functioned flawlessly.
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My National Match M1A loves South African 7.62mm NATO. I usually average 3" groups at 100 yards with open sights. It would probably shoot smaller groups with a scope mounted. I buy the South African 7.62 NATO at Military Gun Supply in Fort Worth for $32.00 a battle pack (140 rounds). As another poster stated, its probably not a good idea to shoot it in a bolt rifle though.